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Usually Wash's avatar

Surely the IQs in their home countries are depressed by the environment. Can we figure out how much? One good proxy would be to look at the IQs of their kids. What is the average IQ of their kids? If you assume the third-world environment decreases everyones' IQs the same amount (which might be a questionable assumption), you should be able to figure out how much of this lower IQ of their home country is environmental, since we know what regression to the mean would look like if it was x% environmental and (100-x)% genetic.

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The received wisdom in the West is immigration is fundamentally good and the immigrants themselves are mostly plucky strivers that the host society is lucky to have. Let's say that's so - and in the data above it appears they are a cut above the average in their native countries.

But at the end of the day, if these really all the best their native lands have to offer and they are still 10 IQ points below the median in their host country, that's not really upside or value add at all. And this fact is what our leadership class is desperate to hide from the public to the greatest extent possible, since once a person groks this reality, the follow up question is "how is this good for the natives?" arises and the answer is it's not...and that leads to even more difficult questions.

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