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E. H. Hail's avatar

"South Asia has a few sub-Saharans brought in by the slave trade and the like. (The young Barack Obama once met a black field worker laboring at Obama’s Pakistani friend’s family fort.)"

Surely any Black-Subsaharan person or group "brought over by the slave trade," if descendants there be, they would be multiethnic descendants for the most part, I'd think.

It seems these Black-Subsaharan descendants are referred to as: "Siddis." As sp often the case with unusual groups like this, huge error-bars are applied to their purported numbers. A total population that is either around 300,000 or around 1,300,000. The few studies done on them show a ca. 60-70% Subsaharan genetic contribution, so multiply whatever total-population number you prefer by 65% to get an approximate Subsaharan genetic-contribution. (Surely there is far more Subsaharan genetics dispersed within the rest of the Indian Subcontinent's population than with the Siddis.)

The Siddis are said to be Sufi Muslims, because their African animist beliefs and rituals transposed smoothly onto Sufi-ism.

As for Barack Obama Jr.'s visit to Pakistan in the early 1980s, it's funny (if true) that he would run into a "Black person" (Siddi) in Pakistan when their numbers were certainly <0.5% and perhaps close to 0.1% of the Pakistan population (and far lower in India).

Sri Lanka has no Siddis and apparently no group of Blacks or mostly-Blacks with any long-term continuity that exists down to the present (the historical existence of part-Subsaharan, mixed-race "Sri Lanka Kaffirs" notwithstanding).

Alas, ethnic-groups need closed-off marriage-pools to maintain their continuity, to say nothing of 'identity.' That generally means control of a geographic space to the exclusion of others, but it can be through social custom living among others (diasporic peoples); the Hindu caste system could partially get it done. The good bet is, though, that a group WILL fade away and disappear without such conditions (as the Sri Lanka Kaffirs did; and probably as most "Siddi" did).

A lot of people have vague notions about North America in which there will always be Whites of NW-European or adjacent European ancestral-stock, simply because there always had been before. For me this is a cartoonish image of how ethnocultural continuity (or discontinuity) works. Similar to how Star Trek, four centuries in the future, shows us people who look exactly like the racial situation of the 20th-century USA!

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Thomas Herring's avatar

DNA matters

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