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Kenneth A. Regas's avatar

Steve,

Your change in direction is well deserved. Have fun and keep up the good work. You will contribute to a better society regardless of the direction(s) you choose. Thomas Sowell is in his 90's and still graces us with his wisdom from time to time. Not a bad model.

Ken

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"The trouble with mirror cells is that they could probably evade most of the barriers that keep ordinary organisms in check. To fight off pathogens, for example, our bodies must first detect them with molecular sensors.

Those sensors can only latch onto left-handed proteins or right-handed DNA and RNA. A mirror cell that infected lab workers might spread through their bodies without triggering any resistance from their immune systems."

granted they have had more time to think about this than I have, but I don't think this is correct. I could be missing something, but the sensors of the immune system, antibodies, T-cell receptors , they grab onto things based on things like size and shape and where charges are and where hydrogens stick out and so forth. I'm pretty sure they can even stick to things that are neither protein nor DNA as long as those requirements are met.

Would such an organism evade the immune system? Initially I would think, just as any novel organism with novel antigens would, but the immune system can make a staggering number of different antibodies. It only spins up ones that have stuck to things before, but I'm pretty sure it could potentially train against proteins made from mirror amino acids.

The mirror organisms would have more of a problem properly invading because it wouldn't have any way to latch on to any receptors on human or animal cells. For example COVID spike protein would bind ACE2 receptors to enter a cell. If the immune system can't bind to mirror spike protein, mirror spike protein definitely can't bind to regular ACE2 receptor.

That isn't even taking account of the fact that such experimental organisms wouldn't have time to evolve such a spike protein.

Seems to me these mirror organisms would just flounder about with no special abilities and get taken out by the non specific immunity functions of the animals.

But, like I said, they've had more time to research and think this through. I could be missing a lot. Doesn't mean we should try making these critters.

Why ask for trouble?

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