One of the interesting things about our wonderful modern age is that old truisms like "blood tells" have been proven correct but are totally unutterable in public debate for the most part. The past had its own imperfections but did it involve this level of lying about obvious things?
Yes, because "the soviet union is bad because it's too communist" and "the soviet union is bad because it's not communist enough" are distinct positions.
But illegal immigrants actually commit less violent crimes in the United States than regular old citizens, so doesn't that indicate that they have better genes?
Americans are Americans. We are stuck with our fellow Americans. We should let in only excellent migrants.
Imagine that Johns Hopkins students committed murder each year at a rate only 80% as high as the natives of Baltimore. When Baltimoreans complain that Johns Hopkins, with its vast resources, is letting in several murderers per year, the president of JHU points out that that's less than the Baltimore average.
The problem with letting in only excellent migrants is that all of the blue collar/menial/working class jobs will have to be done by Americans while the knowledge worker/management class jobs will increasingly be done by immigrants. How will that affect the future? How does Los Angeles function with much fewer blue collar Hispanics? Remember, a lot of immigration of non-excellent people was pushed by Republicans wanting cheap labor.
I don't think excellent implies software engineer. I have a contractor/handyman who is an immigrant and does excellent work. He and his cousin appear to be upstanding citizens with pleasingly American taste in music. I doubt either of them (or their boss for that matter) are committing crimes in their spare time. That said, if we had never opened the floodgates, it's possible native born citizens would still be doing these jobs and everything would still be fine.
Actually, illegal immigrants probably do NOT commit less violent crimes in the United States than "regular" citizens. Quite apart from a lot of crediting immigrant violent crime to the non-immigrant population, the rate of the legacy population is inflated by including non-"regular" citizens, e.g. blacks. Also, no one is saying that the crime rate is only genetic.
I've been watching Tucker Carlson's September tour on youtube, the most I've listened to him since his bowtied talking point youth. It's amazing how often and how easily Trump makes the Establishment expose how much they hate normal Americans, because it has to be animus at this point, not merely stupidity.
The Washington Post, the White House, and the entire media establishment have declared that Calvinism is "hateful, it’s disgusting, it’s inappropriate and has no place in our country"! Yowsa! Better stay in the more tolerant climes of Communist China!
"We don't enjoy all the freedoms you have in China."
> "the 'racehorse theory,' the idea taken from horse-racing that people with superior qualities will pass those strengths on to their children."
Attention all farmers, livestock breeders, ranchers, plant breeders, and geneticists: the Washington Post, in its capacity as Pope of The Science, has excommunicated your work and by extension you.
> "'vile, disturbing, hateful, hateful speech,' Jean-Pierre said. 'It has no place — no place — in the country.'"
Actually, it's a little worse than excommunication. The office of the Chief Executive is saying you have to leave the country. You don't have a second citizenship? Hey, you should have thought of that before you became vile, disturbing, and hateful! Now you have no place here. Sorry. But these people don't mess around. Recall that they ascended to power behind the bayonets of tens of thousands of armed soldiers. So they clearly have no compunction about turning the power of the state on upon whomever they deem an enemy. You've been deemed.
Bad genes impacting behavior....This is more evident as you study peoples history. The 23&me device gets some geolocations on where genes came from, but not what kind of person the genetic relatives. Having watched adoptive children repeat their mothers behaviors and mistakes morally witout any history or contact confirms aspects of bad genes being contributors of trouble.
Nature more than nurture contributes to social disasters.
All the popular behavioral scientists are busy maintaining the warped aspects of society.
Why?
Because they are like the Big Pharma folks. They want to continue their phoney baloney counseling service fir the living.
Pyschologist and Psychiatrist degrees are part of the Darwinian evolutionary assessment of the population.
Useless at solving the root causes of rebellion against sane lawful constraints provided by Godliness and the Words of God to reform people.
Trump isn't wrong, he is just talking to people who know nothing of the causes of sin and how a person can be reformed.
Men and Women are brought to Sin or rebellion by the mechanism Eve sinned.
The lust of the flesh, the lust of if the eye and the vainful pride of life.
John explains it in 1st John 2 as being of the kosmos. Luke records Jesus being tempted in that same sequence in Luke 4 and The Genesis narrative in chapter 3 puts the very process into Eve's act of rebellion.
Believing and accepting God's word will reform people. Ignoring God's word brings personal and societal destruction.
Trump is correct but he cannot articulate it well. To many accommodations with the secular theology and ignorance of scriptures and secular lifestyles have watered down his innate understanding of humanity.
Better than the Marxists in their full apostacy from God Almighty the Lord Jesus Christ.
That includes the Deep Police State.
Stop saying Deep State.
It is the Deep Police State. They protect nothing. They hate the law of the Land.
After Steve gives interviews to two unfriendly media outlets where Steve claimed that he does not believe that genetics (nature) is what determines everything about a person, Steve decided to step on his message.
Mutational load will increase without regular culling, which is no longer permitted. My personal theory is that's why Mangan decided social commentary was pointless and became a fitness guru instead. The only way out for humanity is a long, bloody, dismal journey through.
“You know, now, a murderer, I believe this, it’s in their genes,” Trump said.
In some crowds this would be the opening to a discussion. Is it in the genes? Maybe somewhat. I don't think we know. If you look at the personality disorders that often lead to crime, current thinking (I believe) is that it's more environmental. Psychopathy, I recall reading, has a characteristic brain defect which is apparent to experts on MRI. Is this genetic? Is it an error during development? Is it caused by a virus? I don't think we know.
"current thinking (I believe) is that it's more environmental."
Why do you believe this (and what does it even mean) and what is your experience with "current thinking" that would lead you to believe that "current 'thinking'" is likely to be accurate?
I looked it up and I sit corrected. The personality disorders are considered heritable. But I suppose based on the implication of your second sentence, there is no reason to believe that is accurate either
I absolutely reject "it's current thinking" as a creditable argument. Too much of what is currently widely declared to be true is obvious crap. Sometimes this can be easily detected if you look into it, and a lot of it is eyeroll-inducing idiocy.
I am a skeptic and there is a lot of incorrect information reported on behalf of the scientific community but making a blanket statement against current thinking among people who actually study a condition, is not a good a argument. Lack of heritability of a medical condition is one of the easier things to determine correctly
I didn't make a blank statement against current thinking, my statement was that I find "it's current thinking" a completely unpersuasive argument, and I said why. Being a "murderer" is anyway not a medical condition. What Trump said is 99% ignorant twaddle, IMO, btw. But certainly some of the personal characteristics that contribute to violent criminality are genetically related, I am sure.
There’s a reason why Nicholas Wade had to wait until after he retired before writing (or at least having published) A Troublesome Inheritance. There is no place for Hate Theories or even Hate Facts among those who hold the cultural whip in one hand and the corresponding megaphone in the other.
According to our betters, the only human behavior that is genetically influenced is same sex attraction, despite their inability to find the “gay gene” (allele) or even a cluster of gay related alleles.
“You have good genes, you know that, right?” Trump said. “You have good genes. A lot of it is about the genes, isn’t it? Don’t you believe that? The racehorse theory — do you think we’re so different? You have good genes in Minnesota.”…
“This president, this vice president — we’re going to continue to forcefully reject this kind of vile, disturbing, hateful, hateful speech,” Jean-Pierre said. “It has no place — no place — in the country.”
These two quotes will be absolutely perfect for future historians to understand our crazy times.
I reject the expansion of the use of the word "meme" that has rendered it a useless and meaningless word. "Where's the beef?" was a meme. Where's the "meme" here?
> But according to biographer Edmund Morris, Roosevelt also believed black people were "altogether inferior to whites" and once remarked they were "two hundred thousand years behind" whites.
Actually I think he says 800,000 years, and his interlocutor replies 1 Million, and he says maybe you're right. It's in Edmund Morris' biography Theodore Rex.
Genetics are fake! /s
Btw, Don't mention what happened to Emmett Till's dad in Italy during WWII...
One of the interesting things about our wonderful modern age is that old truisms like "blood tells" have been proven correct but are totally unutterable in public debate for the most part. The past had its own imperfections but did it involve this level of lying about obvious things?
It's the real "urban degeneracy".
Wait until NYT finds out about people aborting babies because they have genetic defects.....
I can't tell if you're for or against forcing women to give birth to deformed offspring.
Whom do you need to tell?
Does it matter for the point he’s making?
Yes, because "the soviet union is bad because it's too communist" and "the soviet union is bad because it's not communist enough" are distinct positions.
The analogy you are attempting is unintelligible.
Maybe you're just stupid.
I'm not worried in the slightest about that possibility, but your reply confirms what YOU are, jackass.
But illegal immigrants actually commit less violent crimes in the United States than regular old citizens, so doesn't that indicate that they have better genes?
Americans are Americans. We are stuck with our fellow Americans. We should let in only excellent migrants.
Imagine that Johns Hopkins students committed murder each year at a rate only 80% as high as the natives of Baltimore. When Baltimoreans complain that Johns Hopkins, with its vast resources, is letting in several murderers per year, the president of JHU points out that that's less than the Baltimore average.
The problem with letting in only excellent migrants is that all of the blue collar/menial/working class jobs will have to be done by Americans while the knowledge worker/management class jobs will increasingly be done by immigrants. How will that affect the future? How does Los Angeles function with much fewer blue collar Hispanics? Remember, a lot of immigration of non-excellent people was pushed by Republicans wanting cheap labor.
I don't think excellent implies software engineer. I have a contractor/handyman who is an immigrant and does excellent work. He and his cousin appear to be upstanding citizens with pleasingly American taste in music. I doubt either of them (or their boss for that matter) are committing crimes in their spare time. That said, if we had never opened the floodgates, it's possible native born citizens would still be doing these jobs and everything would still be fine.
> "illegal immigrants actually commit less violent crimes in the United States than regular old citizens"
False.
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3099992
Actually, illegal immigrants probably do NOT commit less violent crimes in the United States than "regular" citizens. Quite apart from a lot of crediting immigrant violent crime to the non-immigrant population, the rate of the legacy population is inflated by including non-"regular" citizens, e.g. blacks. Also, no one is saying that the crime rate is only genetic.
I've been watching Tucker Carlson's September tour on youtube, the most I've listened to him since his bowtied talking point youth. It's amazing how often and how easily Trump makes the Establishment expose how much they hate normal Americans, because it has to be animus at this point, not merely stupidity.
As a Minnesotan, I can confirm that only in Lake Wobegon are they above average. In the metro area, they only think they are above average.
Paging The Last Real Calvinist ...
The Washington Post, the White House, and the entire media establishment have declared that Calvinism is "hateful, it’s disgusting, it’s inappropriate and has no place in our country"! Yowsa! Better stay in the more tolerant climes of Communist China!
"We don't enjoy all the freedoms you have in China."
https://youtu.be/k_fRQe_FgMs?feature=shared&t=66
Maybe not just Calvinists...
> "the 'racehorse theory,' the idea taken from horse-racing that people with superior qualities will pass those strengths on to their children."
Attention all farmers, livestock breeders, ranchers, plant breeders, and geneticists: the Washington Post, in its capacity as Pope of The Science, has excommunicated your work and by extension you.
> "'vile, disturbing, hateful, hateful speech,' Jean-Pierre said. 'It has no place — no place — in the country.'"
Actually, it's a little worse than excommunication. The office of the Chief Executive is saying you have to leave the country. You don't have a second citizenship? Hey, you should have thought of that before you became vile, disturbing, and hateful! Now you have no place here. Sorry. But these people don't mess around. Recall that they ascended to power behind the bayonets of tens of thousands of armed soldiers. So they clearly have no compunction about turning the power of the state on upon whomever they deem an enemy. You've been deemed.
Bad genes impacting behavior....This is more evident as you study peoples history. The 23&me device gets some geolocations on where genes came from, but not what kind of person the genetic relatives. Having watched adoptive children repeat their mothers behaviors and mistakes morally witout any history or contact confirms aspects of bad genes being contributors of trouble.
Nature more than nurture contributes to social disasters.
All the popular behavioral scientists are busy maintaining the warped aspects of society.
Why?
Because they are like the Big Pharma folks. They want to continue their phoney baloney counseling service fir the living.
Pyschologist and Psychiatrist degrees are part of the Darwinian evolutionary assessment of the population.
Useless at solving the root causes of rebellion against sane lawful constraints provided by Godliness and the Words of God to reform people.
Trump isn't wrong, he is just talking to people who know nothing of the causes of sin and how a person can be reformed.
Men and Women are brought to Sin or rebellion by the mechanism Eve sinned.
The lust of the flesh, the lust of if the eye and the vainful pride of life.
John explains it in 1st John 2 as being of the kosmos. Luke records Jesus being tempted in that same sequence in Luke 4 and The Genesis narrative in chapter 3 puts the very process into Eve's act of rebellion.
Believing and accepting God's word will reform people. Ignoring God's word brings personal and societal destruction.
Trump is correct but he cannot articulate it well. To many accommodations with the secular theology and ignorance of scriptures and secular lifestyles have watered down his innate understanding of humanity.
Better than the Marxists in their full apostacy from God Almighty the Lord Jesus Christ.
That includes the Deep Police State.
Stop saying Deep State.
It is the Deep Police State. They protect nothing. They hate the law of the Land.
See also “The Nurture Assumption” by Judith Rich Harris. It influenced Steven Pinker in “The Blank Slate.”
After Steve gives interviews to two unfriendly media outlets where Steve claimed that he does not believe that genetics (nature) is what determines everything about a person, Steve decided to step on his message.
You can't read, can you?
Mutational load will increase without regular culling, which is no longer permitted. My personal theory is that's why Mangan decided social commentary was pointless and became a fitness guru instead. The only way out for humanity is a long, bloody, dismal journey through.
“You know, now, a murderer, I believe this, it’s in their genes,” Trump said.
In some crowds this would be the opening to a discussion. Is it in the genes? Maybe somewhat. I don't think we know. If you look at the personality disorders that often lead to crime, current thinking (I believe) is that it's more environmental. Psychopathy, I recall reading, has a characteristic brain defect which is apparent to experts on MRI. Is this genetic? Is it an error during development? Is it caused by a virus? I don't think we know.
"current thinking (I believe) is that it's more environmental."
Why do you believe this (and what does it even mean) and what is your experience with "current thinking" that would lead you to believe that "current 'thinking'" is likely to be accurate?
I looked it up and I sit corrected. The personality disorders are considered heritable. But I suppose based on the implication of your second sentence, there is no reason to believe that is accurate either
I absolutely reject "it's current thinking" as a creditable argument. Too much of what is currently widely declared to be true is obvious crap. Sometimes this can be easily detected if you look into it, and a lot of it is eyeroll-inducing idiocy.
I am a skeptic and there is a lot of incorrect information reported on behalf of the scientific community but making a blanket statement against current thinking among people who actually study a condition, is not a good a argument. Lack of heritability of a medical condition is one of the easier things to determine correctly
I didn't make a blank statement against current thinking, my statement was that I find "it's current thinking" a completely unpersuasive argument, and I said why. Being a "murderer" is anyway not a medical condition. What Trump said is 99% ignorant twaddle, IMO, btw. But certainly some of the personal characteristics that contribute to violent criminality are genetically related, I am sure.
There’s a reason why Nicholas Wade had to wait until after he retired before writing (or at least having published) A Troublesome Inheritance. There is no place for Hate Theories or even Hate Facts among those who hold the cultural whip in one hand and the corresponding megaphone in the other.
According to our betters, the only human behavior that is genetically influenced is same sex attraction, despite their inability to find the “gay gene” (allele) or even a cluster of gay related alleles.
“You have good genes, you know that, right?” Trump said. “You have good genes. A lot of it is about the genes, isn’t it? Don’t you believe that? The racehorse theory — do you think we’re so different? You have good genes in Minnesota.”…
“This president, this vice president — we’re going to continue to forcefully reject this kind of vile, disturbing, hateful, hateful speech,” Jean-Pierre said. “It has no place — no place — in the country.”
These two quotes will be absolutely perfect for future historians to understand our crazy times.
Trump memes again.
"The Racehorse Theory".
"Racehorses? Trump thinks that immigrants are eating racehorses?"
"That was cats. This is the Racehorse Theory."
"Gotcha. Nixon used Kissinger used Nixon used Kissinger..."
"That was the Madman Theory. This is the Racehorse Theory."
"The Racehorse Theory? What does it say?"
Th Racehorse Theory is that you can breed faster racehorses from faster racehorses. In other words it's not a theory, it's a fact.
But you still get some duds.
Did I say otherwise?
Calling a fact a theory is what makes it a good meme.
I reject the expansion of the use of the word "meme" that has rendered it a useless and meaningless word. "Where's the beef?" was a meme. Where's the "meme" here?
> But according to biographer Edmund Morris, Roosevelt also believed black people were "altogether inferior to whites" and once remarked they were "two hundred thousand years behind" whites.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53135599
Actually I think he says 800,000 years, and his interlocutor replies 1 Million, and he says maybe you're right. It's in Edmund Morris' biography Theodore Rex.