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Paolo Giusti's avatar

The correct answer is: "the D's are so controlled by the mass media, and the mass media denies and covers up at how bad Cackles is, such that the average D thinks she's really intelligent and good at public speaking".

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MamaBear's avatar

So who would have been the better pick?

Kym's avatar

John James would have been a better pick. Vance doesn’t attract anyone who wasn’t already voting for Trump whereas James would have. Vance seems to be mainly about selecting a MAGA successor to entrench the ideology within the GOP long term.

ashoka's avatar

My impression is that the party is lining up Vivek to take over Vance's seat if Trump wins in November. That ensures that they aren't losing a critical MAGA voice in that seat.

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Christopher Renner's avatar

Reading David Cole's columns over the past few months,, the answer to this is obvious.

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E. H. Hail's avatar

David Cole has been pumping the gossip-mill that the owner of the website you refer to has spoken ill of Sailer. Cole and the owner of that website are waging a verbal war against one another. Sailer is too much a gentleman to get involved publicly. Though some of Sailer's recent output has been interpreted by observers as indirect messages that oppose certain things that website owner has been saying.

Frau Katze's avatar

Where does he write? I don’t see anything recent of his on Unz.

E. H. Hail's avatar

The inveterate self-promoter and gadfly David Cole writes a weekly column at TakiMag. Cole has been on an angry vendetta against the owner of the site that has hosted Sailer's other blog for the past ten years.

Kym's avatar

Steve explained this when he first started the Substack. I think maybe he posted on Twitter originally. Basically he wants to monetise his content (fair enough).

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RWM55's avatar

Well said and I couldn't agree more

NAUGHT NOIR's avatar

May beat Obama's 2-step, 4-year method...

Steve Sailer's avatar

Yeah, it used to be that senators and governors were expected to win re-election once before running for President, like Hillary (elected to Senate in 2000) waited until 2008. But she ran into Obama who was only 4 years into his only term in the Senate.

Ralph L's avatar

Only 3 years: Jan 2005-early 2008.

It does bother me a little that Vance changed jobs every couple of years.

Steve Sailer's avatar

Vance doesn't appear to have too much high-level executive experience. De Santis is only in his mid-40s, but has six years as governor of a huge state as well as several terms in the House of Representatives.

letsgetthisoverwith's avatar

I think this is all for the best, especially if Trump wins. DeSantis gets a few more years to cultivate the apparatchiks that will lead to a more effective regime, but it will also give him some competition since despite it all, he still comes off as an insufferable dweeb. Vance gets a shot at the big time, and has the opportunity to come in motivated and show some guts to the nation, since he is clearly intelligent.

I am not sure who else people want, but this leaves the GOP in the best shape to not have debates on a de facto empty stage like the dem's rogue's gallery of 2020 and the pathetic GOP options of 2016 (and 2012 etc.).

Steve Sailer's avatar

The idea of Vance writing the inspiring words and DeSantis reading the fine prints in the legislation and regulations sounds promising for a future administration when these two still young men could somehow hopefully team up.

forumposter123@protonmail.com's avatar

DeSantis ran a really bad presidential campaign. I don't think being the guy would really be his strong suit, he's a natural governor.

luciaphile's avatar

Desantis has come up in a state where both ag and wildland conservation still hold some sway in comparison to urbanists. So although I don't know that he cares deeply about these most important conservative issues, seeming like he's probably more the sort of government-nerd who likes to debate Fox News-like about "our freedoms" in the abstract, or in connection with barn doors open and closed long ago, legislatively speaking - still, he has probably not been radicalized in the far wrong direction.

I'm not ready to give up on him.

I couldn't care less at this point about guys that project tall and smooth and affable and upper class. They've been a disappointment.

Kelly Harbeson's avatar

Hands off my Guv at least until his second term ends

Granite Mtn. Movie Club's avatar

It’s a bold pick. Trump making no effort to appease “moderates,” and also establishes an heir apparent who will only be 43 in 2028.

ScarletNumber's avatar

JDV turns 40 next month and so will be 44 in 2028

dr. b's avatar

Loved his book. Seems decent, honest and smart. I don’t doubt that he will represent the interests of the forgotten middle class and be a positive force towards fixing our broken borders.

Scott McConnell's avatar

So delighted. Trump realized he wanted an ideological legacy and to change the GOP away from invade the world invite the world. Best way to do it.

Packy's avatar

"Invite the world" ... what do you mean, invite them to behave decently or invite them to migrate to the US in large numbers

Ralph L's avatar

Invade the world, invite the world, in hoc to the world is a famous Sailerism. It refers to mass immigration.

Diana (Somewhere in Maryland)'s avatar

I felt like I saw the neocon movement finally start to die yesterday - and I was delighted.

Yuri Bezmenov's avatar

The Hillbilly Apprentice. By far the best pick. He understands many parts of American life from rural Appalachia, to the military, to Yale Law school "elites". Young with a bright future. Most importantly, he has great taste in the Twitter accounts he follows ;)

E. H. Hail's avatar

When did Vance begin to follow right-wing social-media accounts? It's an interesting choice that he'd do so at all, given that he is a U.S. Senator. It's hard to know what it means.

The At Man's avatar

I was pretty active on twitter in 2020 and he was following and commenting with a lot of those accounts back then.

Dark Beer Thoughts's avatar

JD is super smart and more accomplished than the current VP. He also isn't a plagiarist like our current president and actually knows how to read a balance sheet like our former president. Won't overshadow Trump but won't back down when challenged either. Not sure if he gives Trump anything electorial or from an activist perspective like Pence did with evangelicals.

E. W. Zepp's avatar

Surpringly enough, I’ll admit I don’t know enough about him to have an opinion. And won’t have one until I do.

AngloVermonter's avatar

Apparently he follows you on Twitter...maybe he will chime in!

E. H. Hail's avatar

When did Vance follow Steve Sailer on twitter?

Bill Price's avatar

Couldn't think of a better choice.

Paolo Giusti's avatar

Flynn: he would make DJT bulletproff.

Ralph L's avatar

Looking at their Wikipedia pages, it looks like he lived in SF and Ohio while his wife was clerking in DC and having 3 children.

MamaBear's avatar

So does this make him a patriarchal misogynist or a modern man supportive of his wife's career?

Chewy's avatar

Is he right leaning enough?

Frau Katze's avatar

Leftists are upset because he opposes gay marriage (but that ship has sailed).

E. H. Hail's avatar

"I believe that marriage is between one man and one woman, but...I'm not one of these guys who's looking to try to take people's families and rip them apart." -- J,D. Vance, quoted in July 2022 (quoted on his wiki entry);

MamaBear's avatar

Revoking gay marriage going forward doesn't mean we have to tear up existing marriages. Can let them continue on until they expire and not let new gay marriages occur. Can also give them civil unions as a replacement.

GP's avatar

I read and liked his book and felt a considerable connection to his background. I’m kind of curious about those cheeks, though, and for photogenic reasons I’m glad Trump made peace with his beard.