This iteration of the Trump administration has me shaking my head. I can support America deciding to slowly retire from being the global hegemon. If Europe wants to defend Ukraine to the last inch on principle, leave 'em to it. But the jokes about Canada (I'm pretty sure these are joke) are unseemly, and I can't tell what the heck he is …
This iteration of the Trump administration has me shaking my head. I can support America deciding to slowly retire from being the global hegemon. If Europe wants to defend Ukraine to the last inch on principle, leave 'em to it. But the jokes about Canada (I'm pretty sure these are joke) are unseemly, and I can't tell what the heck he is on about with Greenland.
The worst thing though is sending Venezuelans gang members, sine trial, to a prison in El Salvador for a sentence of 'lemme think about it'. If that's just a way to pressure Venezuela to take them back, maybe it's work out, but this is still not how the US is supposed to handle things.
I’d say that the worse thing is the previous administration deciding to let the Venezuelan gangs come here and set up shop, thus condemning entire neighborhoods to long sentences of “let me think about it.”
They’re not citizens.
We gave up on due process with the Patriot Act and Guantanamo Bay. We weren’t too fond of it during WW1 or 2 either.
'We gave up on due process with the Patriot Act and Guantanamo Bay"
I want it back. There are good historical reasons for letting the judicial branch decide if you are a gang member rather than the cops. It's for your protection too.
It was dereliction of duty to not vet those people when they came in. The gamesmanship of their native countries refusing to take them back has left us holding the bag. I’d much rather dump them across the Mexican or Canadian border, but those countries have laws against illegal immigration.
As has been said before, the Constitution is not a suicide pact. I’m not without misgivings, I just don’t consider illegal aliens to have the same rights as citizens.
You can't bring a classical liberal toy knife to a bolshevik gunfight. As has been pointed out, these people should never have been let in but the classical liberals refuse to believe that all men are not in fact created equal.
I understand and I agree with deporting people despite the sob stories. I read of one guy who has supposedly been on the list to leave for a decade and he went for his regular meeting and was surprise deported and the articles are all about what a swell guy he was and how he should have been given (more?) notice. I don't buy it.
OTOH- I wonder how you feel about this case. Scroll down to where they talk about the evidence and his immigration form. Near as I can tell he was deported to a black site prison for suspicion of being associate with the gang.
It gives me pause. I could easily draft the guy’s habeas petition. But why do these people take the most fraught, long way around? He could apply for residency (there is zero evidence he is a refugee) in any number of Spanish-speaking countries. He could file his application at the US Embassy in Caracas. Now here we are with a problem too big for any country to handle. I'm sorry so many of his countrymen are so stupid and corrupt.
It's a frustrating time to be idealistic, and I think classical liberal ideals are very good ideals indeed. Unfortunately we're still working through the soft people part of the cycle.
This iteration of the Trump administration has me shaking my head. I can support America deciding to slowly retire from being the global hegemon. If Europe wants to defend Ukraine to the last inch on principle, leave 'em to it. But the jokes about Canada (I'm pretty sure these are joke) are unseemly, and I can't tell what the heck he is on about with Greenland.
The worst thing though is sending Venezuelans gang members, sine trial, to a prison in El Salvador for a sentence of 'lemme think about it'. If that's just a way to pressure Venezuela to take them back, maybe it's work out, but this is still not how the US is supposed to handle things.
Trump-II: D-party "out"; Dishonor and Disgrace "in."
I'd just shoot them at the border, which is what I predict people will eventually be doing, long after Trump.
I’d say that the worse thing is the previous administration deciding to let the Venezuelan gangs come here and set up shop, thus condemning entire neighborhoods to long sentences of “let me think about it.”
They’re not citizens.
We gave up on due process with the Patriot Act and Guantanamo Bay. We weren’t too fond of it during WW1 or 2 either.
'We gave up on due process with the Patriot Act and Guantanamo Bay"
I want it back. There are good historical reasons for letting the judicial branch decide if you are a gang member rather than the cops. It's for your protection too.
It was dereliction of duty to not vet those people when they came in. The gamesmanship of their native countries refusing to take them back has left us holding the bag. I’d much rather dump them across the Mexican or Canadian border, but those countries have laws against illegal immigration.
Two wrongs don't make a right, though I concede the way in which the left wrongs tends to act like a ratchet.
If this El Salvador prison thing turns out to be just a way to pressure Venezuela to take their garbage back, I will forgive it.
As has been said before, the Constitution is not a suicide pact. I’m not without misgivings, I just don’t consider illegal aliens to have the same rights as citizens.
You can't bring a classical liberal toy knife to a bolshevik gunfight. As has been pointed out, these people should never have been let in but the classical liberals refuse to believe that all men are not in fact created equal.
I understand and I agree with deporting people despite the sob stories. I read of one guy who has supposedly been on the list to leave for a decade and he went for his regular meeting and was surprise deported and the articles are all about what a swell guy he was and how he should have been given (more?) notice. I don't buy it.
OTOH- I wonder how you feel about this case. Scroll down to where they talk about the evidence and his immigration form. Near as I can tell he was deported to a black site prison for suspicion of being associate with the gang.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/immigration/article302671624.html
Does this not give you pause?
It gives me pause. I could easily draft the guy’s habeas petition. But why do these people take the most fraught, long way around? He could apply for residency (there is zero evidence he is a refugee) in any number of Spanish-speaking countries. He could file his application at the US Embassy in Caracas. Now here we are with a problem too big for any country to handle. I'm sorry so many of his countrymen are so stupid and corrupt.
I agree with that. Very little pisses me off like the left wing acceptance of the idea of being an asylum seeker because of crime back home.
It's a frustrating time to be idealistic, and I think classical liberal ideals are very good ideals indeed. Unfortunately we're still working through the soft people part of the cycle.