It is almost Greek tragedy to see the constant articles coming out of the NYT and WaPo canvassing the Arab Democratic strongholds in the NE and Midwest states. They sound sincere in their belief that the DNC genuinely cares about their concerns re the Israeli-Gaza conflict.
I have no reason to doubt you about Soros, but to me the bizarre thing about Soros-as-bogeyman is how sedulously the media tells us that Soros is *not* a bad or rogue actor, he has no influence, no involvement in anything, etc. - while being careful to virtually never (?) interview the guy so that we can hear from the horse's mouth what his thinking is, the roots of his turn-the-world-upside-down ideology ...
I think I know more about a fabulous birthday party his family gave him one time, than I do about the man himself.
As far as the media is concerned, George Clooney (!) is more *interesting* than George Soros. You'd never guess differently from their reporting.
Aw, somebody loves George. Everybody should be loved by somebody.
Explain like I’m five (& lazy, stupid, etc.).
Soros literally wants to take the people that most of us wish to see unrewarded - thugs, criminals, foreign and domestic - and place them at the top of the hierarchy. Ordinary people, he wishes to see at the bottom, cowering in fear and paying Danegeld. Why? Out of what tradition does this arise? Just his own brain? How did he arrive at such an unusual conception of “beauty” or justice, if that’s all it is?
Who in the mainstream media has asked him to explain why this is the change he wants to enact in the world?
I’m genuinely curious. I feel like it would be something worth understanding.
I see him referenced a lot. I’m certain that a survey of media or pundit references to George Soros would be overwhelmingly of the “it’s a misconception that GS is funding this, that, and the other”. It’s not that there’s not a George Soros beat. It’s like there’s a George Soros deflection beat.
Yeah, I’m not real interested in George Soros’s thoughts about global warming.
Sorry if I was unclear. I don’t know whether it is up to the media - I have no window to that world - but the atmosphere of mystery is in itself a story or would be if they didn’t have to pretend he didn’t exist.
Either way it is about the most legitimate case of gaslighting I can think of. And I am pretty sure I’ve never used “gaslighting” in an internet comment before.
Obviously you can't interview Soros unless he consents to being interviewed by you. But I put that phrase in a search engine and a video of him answering questions at Davos popped up, so I think you may be conflating your own lack of knowqledge with the true facts.
Hoffman is Jewish through his buddy Epstein. He embarrassed himself on the All-In podcast, hope someone funds lawfare against him after he bankrolled E Jean Carroll. Soros/Bloomberg/Moskowitz/Katzenberg represent the unholy Democrat trinity of Wall Street, Big Tech, and Hollywood.
Are you finally backing down on all that pro Zionist crap? I blocked you after October 7th when you were all in on Israel's genocide and free speech crackdowns on those who oppose it. Have you repented and seen the error of your ways and stopped being a Jew cuck? If so I may unblock you.
You have to be as dumb as a rock to believe tripe like this. Being Jewish isn't like cooties and you don't get to be one just because you don't hate all Jews.
The reason Jews don't have any interest in college football has nothing to do with being in the Northeast. It has to do with football being a low-IQ pastime that glorifies thugs. (Surely Northeasterners can't be the only ones who've noticed this?)
The Soros family seems very happy to finance Israel-haters, so it isn't dependence on pro-Israel cash that compels the Democrats to continue their lip service of supporting Israel while partnering with its enemies when it comes to actual policy.
I don't even think it's accurate in the year 2024 to think that cash donations are especially influential. Democrats get a few hundred million in cash donations and a few quadrillion zillion worth of in-kind contributions from the universities, media, schoolteachers, etc. Billionaires proved less influential over the Biden-Harris administration than tent-dwelling, ramen-eating college students. Republicans are more dependent on cash than Democrats for exactly this reason, but Trump still eked out his 2016 win with Hillary massively outspending him. The influence of cash is overrated.
I wonder about this too- after some point does that cash matter? It used to be for television ads because that's how the dopes decided whom to vote for. Now? Is it for on the ground organizing? I wonder if at some point the money raising is about the human instinct to run up the score.
Jewish Americans have traditionally been big fans of college basketball. Is that a highbrow game? It seems more like basketball was invented in Springfield, MA and it spread more haphazardly than football across the country (e.g., big college basketball states include Connecticut, Kentucky, North Carolina, Kansas, and until recently Indiana).
College basketball was more popular in NYC than college football, which needs a bigger playing ground. Madison Square Garden was the capital of basketball for most of the 20th Century.
I will have to confess to the Pauline Kael award on college basketball. The only people I know who are into it are the people who are into sports in general and will watch anything with a ball. Also Mormons. (Dunno what that one's all about.) That said, basketball is surely second to football in thuggery, but it's a distant second. The high school basketball team didn't consist of every last one of the school bullies like the football team did. Brett Kavanaugh coached basketball. Tim Walz coached football. QED.
In sports as a spectator I was primarilty interested in pro basjketball (and as to participation I was a real gym rat for most of a couple decades), but I don't like what has been done to my game in the last sixty years.
Money may buy votes, but votes can also come cheap. Minnesota has not become a stronghold of terrorist supporters because of a lack of Jewish donations to democrats, but rather because of the importation of Muslims. That’s the trend that could destroy American support for Israel not to mention support for democracy and tolerance within America.
Why on earth would you expect Jews, even financial magnates, to be distracted by *football*? Jewish lack of ability and general disdain for athletic pursuits is legendary; they're always making gags about it.
You want them to quit throwing money into politics (which I agree with), you want to distract them with the arts or sciences. Given the role of Hollywood and TV in pushing America left, I'd go with the sciences. (Though a few of them did finally break when the golem turned on them at the Ivy League. Frankly I wouldn't mind some of the old pro-American mid-to-late-20th century Jewish stuff they used to make like comic books, but all the artists are too woke now. ) This EA thing was a good bet, at least until Sam Bankman Fried came along. But, I don't know, get them to fund research into fusion power or something. It would make America a world leader in energy production, reduce the power of anti-Israel Arab countries, and cut carbon emissions. Sounds attractive to a rich Jewish guy...
Peiople who write gags are not generally football fans, but I don't see any evidence of a particularly Jwish alienation from sports. It's not something I keep tabs on, but Max Baer was one of many Jewish boxers, Sandy Koufax and Hank Greenberg were famous Jewish basenall players, Jewish baskertball players were numerous back when such players were often white (e.g., Dolph Shayes), etc.
There absolutely were Jewish athletes, but it was never a big emphasis. I found it hilarious when I found an old book of Jewish sports figures in a used bookstore and half of them were agents, sportswriters, announcers, or some other role off the field.
I just find the suggestion that having college football teams in the right part of the country would be a significant distraction to Jewish billionaires to be rather silly. I share Steve's concern about the role of guys like Soros but I would put my efforts toward convincing guys like Bill Ackman they're not going to be able to make Jews an underrepresented minority.
Or boosting your non-billionaire Scott Alexander types who are functionally anti-woke even if otherwise liberal, but that's a different role.
Most non-Jews involved in sports are also involved in off-the-field roles, so the claimed distinction is still unconvincing. No doubt Jews are overrepresented in all the ways in which Jews are usually overrepresented, but interest is not an issue that I can see.
College basketball was huge among New York City Jews up until the 1951 CCNY point-shaving scandal destroyed the basketball programs at several New York college basketball power colleges like City College of New York, NYU, and Long Island University.
This was the college basketball equivalent of the Chicago Black Sox throwing the 1919 World Series. More than a few of the players and fixers were Jewish.
New York City never really recovered as a center for basketball powerhouse colleges, although lots of good players continued to come out of NYC.
Wow, that is a long, detailed incomprehensible wikipedia article. I guess not a lot of interested editors. The dollars they offered the players were shocking. As a non sports fan I'm imagining what I would have done if someone offered me $17,000 to play a silly game less well. I might have sniffed danger but from an ethics point of I view, I might have crumbled. NY made accepting bribes to throw a game into a felony for selected sports? I get it, I suppose, but isn't this the government making a law to protect the integrity of illegal sports betting? Voters sure do love their sportsball
"Jewish lack of ability and general disdain for athletic pursuits is legendary; they're always making gags about it."
I have often wondered (but never looked into) whether there's truth to this stereotype. I kind of got the sense it was more of a "Jews are proportionately represented in athletics, and thus, to their mind, they suck at sports since they are used to excelling at and dominating most other disciplines." Or maybe they really do overwhelmingly suck at sports. I dunno. Curious if our host or anyone in the commenteriat can point to data on this.
It's a good question. My guess is even accounting for population (a few single digits percent) that Jews are underrepresented as players of the top three or four pro sports. The numbers are so low that I think my dad pretty much mentioned every one of them in real time (did you know Lyle Alzado was part Jewish? No dad, I did not) I would guess this is true at the division I level of those sports in college too. I would further guess that we would find this is true of other kinds of white people (Italians vs Irish vs Swedes etc.) were it not for the fact that by the second half of the 20th century all the Christian immigrants were freestyle interbreeding.
"the kind of personalities who’d be shelling out for the best linebackers if they had grown up in Alabama shell out instead for Israel as their version of their favorite college football team."
This would be a good analogy if the Crimson Tide were allowed to kill the opposing team and take over its stadium when it won. And if the game were decided by who paid the refs the most money.
And if the people paying the refs were a 3,000 year-old endogamous tribe of Crimson Tide boosters. Other than that, comparing Zionist control of the U.S. government to football fandom is right on the money.
Yes, the American people really want to murder Palestinian babies, send hundreds of billions to a useless parasitic country in West Asia, and incur the hatred of the entire Arab world. They would do that even if the Jews weren't bribing both the Democrats and Republicans to do this. You sound like a real American! Not a dual citizen at all! Certainly not with that fake gentile handle.
To the extent that Massey saying that ("handler") was not a dogwhistle falsehood it strikes me as probably unexceptional. How do you imagine the NAM, say, handles Congressional relations? Never sends the same lobbyist to talk to the same Congresscreature twice in a row? Or maybe the NAM sends the lobbyist who has talked successfully to that Congressvermin enough times for the NAM to think that he's one who can get results?
They do vote for conservative parties in France and UK but in the US the Republican party is the Christian party and the Democrat party is not. Jews will never vote for the Christian party in significant numbers.
As long as the Democrats are the anti-Christian party Jews will vote for them. Voting for the Democrats is what it means to be an American Jew. Jews have more in common with the anti-Israel protestors than they do with the Christains who vote Republican. In fact half the anti-Israel campus protestors are probably Jews.
Will the Democrats ever turn against Israel? They already have. THe Biden/Harris push for a ceasefire in Gaza without further Israeli success is just that.
"further Israeli success." LOL. The Israelis are only good at murdering women and children and anally raping prisoners. And even to do this, they require America to pay for it and support them in every way. They can't fight against armed men on anything remotely approaching a level field. How much more genocide of captive civilians until you rate Israel a "success"?
Steve, in my opinion, the answer to that question ultimately depends on demographics. If we continue to import millions of parasitic and useless turd worlders who historically vote Democrat(ic) and who view Jews as just another group of White people to envy and hate, then it's just a matter of time.
A study showed that in issues where the "grassroots" have another opinion than the top donors, the top donors almost always have their way.
Also, remember how top Democrat donor Bloomberg got rich. He was first hired in the Wall Street world by other Jews, and then he sold a panel for Wall Street investment firms. His panel was the only one that got information about Federal Reserve changes right before they happened. The Reserve being run by another Jewish individual, Alan Greenspan. Bloomberg got the information "for whatever reason," as one newspaper put it, not being allowed to tell the truth. So everyone in Wall Street had to get Bloomberg's panel, making him extremely wealthy. Then he can donate a lot of that money to the Democrats. And that's how it works.
But wait - the donors lose money at least, right? Information Liberation recently wrote about this, with the Times of Israel as the source: The U.S. government in 2024 will give $454.5 million mainly to Jewish religious institutions, to "secure religion". The decision was made by Jewish Homeland Security secretary Alejandro Mayorkas. In recent years Muslims and Black groups have also applied for some of the money, often with the guidance of Jewish groups. Meanwhile, AIPAC has already spent $100 million in this election cycle, donating to political candidates. Jewish organizations then get tax money by the elected politicians "for their security," much of which will flow to AIPAC.
In New York Orthodox Jewish groups often run elderly care, where it is easy to add numerous daily visits to old people's homes, far more than what is needed, which are then paid for by tax money. Restrictions and investigations of this scheme were ended by Democrat politicians who received donations from the Orthodox groups.
AIPAC says that half of all Jews in the U.S. donates to Jewish organizations. If that is true, they do lose some money through donations. But as the above examples show, they get a lot back from this.
>53 percent of the money went to Democratic candidates or to liberal causes, 44 percent to Republicans or conservatives
This is an enormous difference. Democrats receive 20% more money. Consider how much extra campaigning they can do and how small the margins for victory are in the swing states.
>Of the $675 million given by the top 50 donors, 66 percent of the money came from Jews and 34 percent from gentiles.
> 76% of the money [the Democrats] got from their few dozen biggest donors came from Jews.
Add to that the enormous domination of Jews in the top positions in the top media, and in the few top Hollywood companies. And how Jewish-run Meta, which owns Facebook and Instagram, heavily favors the Democrats; deleting posts, banning users, and only using leftist sources for their news feed - even when the origin of the news is a conservative site. Likewise Google explicitly tells its employees to put anti-immigrant sites at the bottom of the list, or ban them altogether, meaning they won't show up in Google searches. Studies show this shifts several percent of votes to the Left.
Leftists online try to distort the top-donor issue by claiming that "capitalism" is in charge. If a party doesn't want Soviet-style government monopolies, then clearly it is "capitalist." That way they can pretend their side isn't in control and they are still rebels. Rebels who just happen to be promoted by all the media and all the universities and schools, with their front organizations being financed by tax money all over the West.
Do the Jewish top donors favor "capitalism"? They favor mass immigration, which will always lead to higher taxes to bribe immigrant voters, meaning less money for the wealthiest; and also less money for ordinary people, which means less sales for the wealthiest. Mass immigration will always lead to minimum wages being raised. And the more the Left is in charge of a state, the more can they raise the minimum wage to absurd levels. That hurts businesses. Mass immigration means higher costs for society in countless ways, which again leads to higher taxes. And to more public debt, meaning higher interest has to be paid, meaning higher taxes.
The Left's bogeyman is a "racist capitalist" establishment. But if that bogeyman was actually in charge, it would outsource production to low-wage countries while keeping the West White, which would lead to the lowest taxes.
But in fact, it was always the Left that demanded there be no tariffs against Third World production after WWII, because that would be "racist." First they demanded that White expansion be halted and reversed - colonies had to be abandoned and Whites had to flee back to Europe. Then they demanded that there still be trade with the former colonies, where the resources were now owned by Arabs, Blacks and Asians.
While business owners in the West have traditionally always been the most nationalist and pro-tariffs, as the domestic market was always the most important one, and they wanted to be able to take the car to the factory and then go home to the family, not having to go on trips to India and pay bribes to Indian officials, or try to deal with African generals.
The top business owners were always the leftist media's main target, however. Over several generations the media targeted every "racist" and nationalist statement, and kept targeting a business for years afterward. Businesses, whose managers didn't know more about politics than what they would read in the newspaper, had no counter arguments, and had to promote those who were willing to play the media game. That's why we today have even White top donors to the parties who favor mass immigration, alongside the overwhelming Jewish presence. And anyone who would like to favor nationalist candidates would see his money turned away from the parties.
Just one visible example of how the business world has been molded: The CEO of Firefox donated to the side opposing homosexual marriage in California. Firefox was then targeted by the media, and its users were blocked from various sites, until they fired the CEO.
It ultimately always comes back to who controls the top media.
THe Elders of Zion ordered Greenspan to give Bloomberg advance information on what the Federal Reserve was going to do because Bloomberh was their agent on Wall Street and I guess they wanted his computer terminal to make $billios but somehow this allegation is not explicityly stated or even justified for unidentified ("whatever") reasons but you should believe it anyway. Because Jews are like that and somehow there weren't any better cionnected Jews available, I guess.
Like I wrote to Jack D on Unz, the Democrats aren't going to go anti-Israel anytime very soon, but supporting Israel is just going to keep on getting more and more expensive for all involved.
Isn't that what eventually did the Crusader kingdoms in? Of all the places to put a homeland, in the middle of a billion Muslims seems rather foolhardy to me.
I think this is correct. Also, Israel is very much a product of the post-WW2 Atlanticist policy view on which Jews capitalized to get their modern nation-state, not that there's anything wrong with that.
Post-WW2 Atlanticism is very much an Anglo-American outlook. Future Amerikwa will just not have that perspective. They will not particularly care about Israel, or Ukraine for that matter. This paradigm shift will accelerate over the next 20 yeasrs, as the late-Boomers die en masse.
It is probably true that Israel could be self-sufficient if it had to be. I'd also predict that in that event, Israel would be more conciliatory in its dealings with its neighbors.
My prediction is the opposite. Biden/Harris are pushing Israel to be less firm and given that they have leverage I don't think that they have no effect. And I approve of a firmer stance by Israel.
>Voter machines in New Hampshire were handed over to a small firm to program. It turns out they outsourced the coding to foreigners, which was revealed when a firm was hired to do a forensic examination.
>New Hampshire officials say the scan revealed another issue: A programmer had hard-coded the Ukrainian national anthem into the database, in an apparent gesture of solidarity with Kyiv.
>The probe unearthed some unwelcome surprises: software misconfigured to connect to servers in Russia and the use of open-source code — which is freely available online — overseen by a Russian computer engineer convicted of manslaughter, according to a person familiar with the examination and granted anonymity because they were not authorized to speak about it.
>This was “a disaster averted,” said the person familiar with the probe, citing the risk that hackers could have exploited the first two issues to surreptitiously edit the state’s voter rolls, or use them and the presence of the Ukrainian national anthem to stoke election conspiracies.
It's a "conspiracy theory" to know the fact that the coding was outsourced to foreigners who even put their political opinions IN THE CODE.
It is almost Greek tragedy to see the constant articles coming out of the NYT and WaPo canvassing the Arab Democratic strongholds in the NE and Midwest states. They sound sincere in their belief that the DNC genuinely cares about their concerns re the Israeli-Gaza conflict.
How is it a "Greek tragedy"?
Elon Musk, though not Jewish, is much more pro-Israel than George Soros.
Soros shows no interest in Israel. Neither does Kamala’s Jewish husband Doug Emhoff.
I have no reason to doubt you about Soros, but to me the bizarre thing about Soros-as-bogeyman is how sedulously the media tells us that Soros is *not* a bad or rogue actor, he has no influence, no involvement in anything, etc. - while being careful to virtually never (?) interview the guy so that we can hear from the horse's mouth what his thinking is, the roots of his turn-the-world-upside-down ideology ...
I think I know more about a fabulous birthday party his family gave him one time, than I do about the man himself.
As far as the media is concerned, George Clooney (!) is more *interesting* than George Soros. You'd never guess differently from their reporting.
Aw, somebody loves George. Everybody should be loved by somebody.
Explain like I’m five (& lazy, stupid, etc.).
Soros literally wants to take the people that most of us wish to see unrewarded - thugs, criminals, foreign and domestic - and place them at the top of the hierarchy. Ordinary people, he wishes to see at the bottom, cowering in fear and paying Danegeld. Why? Out of what tradition does this arise? Just his own brain? How did he arrive at such an unusual conception of “beauty” or justice, if that’s all it is?
Who in the mainstream media has asked him to explain why this is the change he wants to enact in the world?
I’m genuinely curious. I feel like it would be something worth understanding.
I see him referenced a lot. I’m certain that a survey of media or pundit references to George Soros would be overwhelmingly of the “it’s a misconception that GS is funding this, that, and the other”. It’s not that there’s not a George Soros beat. It’s like there’s a George Soros deflection beat.
Yeah, I’m not real interested in George Soros’s thoughts about global warming.
His birthday party OTOH was something else.
"....while being careful to virtually never (?) interview the guy..."
Is that up to them?
Sorry if I was unclear. I don’t know whether it is up to the media - I have no window to that world - but the atmosphere of mystery is in itself a story or would be if they didn’t have to pretend he didn’t exist.
Either way it is about the most legitimate case of gaslighting I can think of. And I am pretty sure I’ve never used “gaslighting” in an internet comment before.
No one is pretending that Soros doesn't exist.
Obviously you can't interview Soros unless he consents to being interviewed by you. But I put that phrase in a search engine and a video of him answering questions at Davos popped up, so I think you may be conflating your own lack of knowqledge with the true facts.
Hoffman is Jewish through his buddy Epstein. He embarrassed himself on the All-In podcast, hope someone funds lawfare against him after he bankrolled E Jean Carroll. Soros/Bloomberg/Moskowitz/Katzenberg represent the unholy Democrat trinity of Wall Street, Big Tech, and Hollywood.
More on Reid's subversive activities: https://yuribezmenov.substack.com/p/how-to-flex-on-linkedin-part-3
Are you finally backing down on all that pro Zionist crap? I blocked you after October 7th when you were all in on Israel's genocide and free speech crackdowns on those who oppose it. Have you repented and seen the error of your ways and stopped being a Jew cuck? If so I may unblock you.
Well, you certainly have an overly high opinion of yourself. If you think people care about seeing the comments of crazy Oberlin hippie.
"Hoffman is Jewish through his buddy Epstein."
You have to be as dumb as a rock to believe tripe like this. Being Jewish isn't like cooties and you don't get to be one just because you don't hate all Jews.
The reason Jews don't have any interest in college football has nothing to do with being in the Northeast. It has to do with football being a low-IQ pastime that glorifies thugs. (Surely Northeasterners can't be the only ones who've noticed this?)
The Soros family seems very happy to finance Israel-haters, so it isn't dependence on pro-Israel cash that compels the Democrats to continue their lip service of supporting Israel while partnering with its enemies when it comes to actual policy.
I don't even think it's accurate in the year 2024 to think that cash donations are especially influential. Democrats get a few hundred million in cash donations and a few quadrillion zillion worth of in-kind contributions from the universities, media, schoolteachers, etc. Billionaires proved less influential over the Biden-Harris administration than tent-dwelling, ramen-eating college students. Republicans are more dependent on cash than Democrats for exactly this reason, but Trump still eked out his 2016 win with Hillary massively outspending him. The influence of cash is overrated.
I wonder about this too- after some point does that cash matter? It used to be for television ads because that's how the dopes decided whom to vote for. Now? Is it for on the ground organizing? I wonder if at some point the money raising is about the human instinct to run up the score.
Jewish Americans have traditionally been big fans of college basketball. Is that a highbrow game? It seems more like basketball was invented in Springfield, MA and it spread more haphazardly than football across the country (e.g., big college basketball states include Connecticut, Kentucky, North Carolina, Kansas, and until recently Indiana).
College basketball was more popular in NYC than college football, which needs a bigger playing ground. Madison Square Garden was the capital of basketball for most of the 20th Century.
I will have to confess to the Pauline Kael award on college basketball. The only people I know who are into it are the people who are into sports in general and will watch anything with a ball. Also Mormons. (Dunno what that one's all about.) That said, basketball is surely second to football in thuggery, but it's a distant second. The high school basketball team didn't consist of every last one of the school bullies like the football team did. Brett Kavanaugh coached basketball. Tim Walz coached football. QED.
In sports as a spectator I was primarilty interested in pro basjketball (and as to participation I was a real gym rat for most of a couple decades), but I don't like what has been done to my game in the last sixty years.
Money may buy votes, but votes can also come cheap. Minnesota has not become a stronghold of terrorist supporters because of a lack of Jewish donations to democrats, but rather because of the importation of Muslims. That’s the trend that could destroy American support for Israel not to mention support for democracy and tolerance within America.
Well, when the Arab Oil Sheiks start funneling donations.
I mean, they are, just not as much, and they don't have the native familiarity with the country of a billionaire who grew up here.
Why on earth would you expect Jews, even financial magnates, to be distracted by *football*? Jewish lack of ability and general disdain for athletic pursuits is legendary; they're always making gags about it.
You want them to quit throwing money into politics (which I agree with), you want to distract them with the arts or sciences. Given the role of Hollywood and TV in pushing America left, I'd go with the sciences. (Though a few of them did finally break when the golem turned on them at the Ivy League. Frankly I wouldn't mind some of the old pro-American mid-to-late-20th century Jewish stuff they used to make like comic books, but all the artists are too woke now. ) This EA thing was a good bet, at least until Sam Bankman Fried came along. But, I don't know, get them to fund research into fusion power or something. It would make America a world leader in energy production, reduce the power of anti-Israel Arab countries, and cut carbon emissions. Sounds attractive to a rich Jewish guy...
Peiople who write gags are not generally football fans, but I don't see any evidence of a particularly Jwish alienation from sports. It's not something I keep tabs on, but Max Baer was one of many Jewish boxers, Sandy Koufax and Hank Greenberg were famous Jewish basenall players, Jewish baskertball players were numerous back when such players were often white (e.g., Dolph Shayes), etc.
There absolutely were Jewish athletes, but it was never a big emphasis. I found it hilarious when I found an old book of Jewish sports figures in a used bookstore and half of them were agents, sportswriters, announcers, or some other role off the field.
I just find the suggestion that having college football teams in the right part of the country would be a significant distraction to Jewish billionaires to be rather silly. I share Steve's concern about the role of guys like Soros but I would put my efforts toward convincing guys like Bill Ackman they're not going to be able to make Jews an underrepresented minority.
Or boosting your non-billionaire Scott Alexander types who are functionally anti-woke even if otherwise liberal, but that's a different role.
Most non-Jews involved in sports are also involved in off-the-field roles, so the claimed distinction is still unconvincing. No doubt Jews are overrepresented in all the ways in which Jews are usually overrepresented, but interest is not an issue that I can see.
TV and movie gagwriters were traditionally huge baseball fans. E.g., the baseball game climax in "The Naked Gun."
"Would you like something to read?"
"Do you have anything light?"
"How about this leaflet, 'Famous Jewish Sports Legends?'"
The existence of a stereotype is not a convincing argument for its accuracy.
I know a lot of jewish sports fans. They mostly follow the pros. I don't know any who are fanatically devoted to their college teams.
College basketball was huge among New York City Jews up until the 1951 CCNY point-shaving scandal destroyed the basketball programs at several New York college basketball power colleges like City College of New York, NYU, and Long Island University.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CCNY_point-shaving_scandal#:~:text=The%20CCNY%20point%2Dshaving%20scandal,them%20being%20in%20the%20South.
This was the college basketball equivalent of the Chicago Black Sox throwing the 1919 World Series. More than a few of the players and fixers were Jewish.
New York City never really recovered as a center for basketball powerhouse colleges, although lots of good players continued to come out of NYC.
Wow, that is a long, detailed incomprehensible wikipedia article. I guess not a lot of interested editors. The dollars they offered the players were shocking. As a non sports fan I'm imagining what I would have done if someone offered me $17,000 to play a silly game less well. I might have sniffed danger but from an ethics point of I view, I might have crumbled. NY made accepting bribes to throw a game into a felony for selected sports? I get it, I suppose, but isn't this the government making a law to protect the integrity of illegal sports betting? Voters sure do love their sportsball
College sportsball fans seem to be bandwagon types. Maybe Jews just don't tend to go to the sportsball factory unversities.
"Jewish lack of ability and general disdain for athletic pursuits is legendary; they're always making gags about it."
I have often wondered (but never looked into) whether there's truth to this stereotype. I kind of got the sense it was more of a "Jews are proportionately represented in athletics, and thus, to their mind, they suck at sports since they are used to excelling at and dominating most other disciplines." Or maybe they really do overwhelmingly suck at sports. I dunno. Curious if our host or anyone in the commenteriat can point to data on this.
It's a good question. My guess is even accounting for population (a few single digits percent) that Jews are underrepresented as players of the top three or four pro sports. The numbers are so low that I think my dad pretty much mentioned every one of them in real time (did you know Lyle Alzado was part Jewish? No dad, I did not) I would guess this is true at the division I level of those sports in college too. I would further guess that we would find this is true of other kinds of white people (Italians vs Irish vs Swedes etc.) were it not for the fact that by the second half of the 20th century all the Christian immigrants were freestyle interbreeding.
"the kind of personalities who’d be shelling out for the best linebackers if they had grown up in Alabama shell out instead for Israel as their version of their favorite college football team."
This would be a good analogy if the Crimson Tide were allowed to kill the opposing team and take over its stadium when it won. And if the game were decided by who paid the refs the most money.
And if the people paying the refs were a 3,000 year-old endogamous tribe of Crimson Tide boosters. Other than that, comparing Zionist control of the U.S. government to football fandom is right on the money.
There is no Zionist control of the US governent. Why don't you go back to Unz where your shitstain thinking will fit in better?
The Unzites may be impossible to completely shake. He spent too long there.
Just wait till Tiny Duck shows up. ;)
Yes, the American people really want to murder Palestinian babies, send hundreds of billions to a useless parasitic country in West Asia, and incur the hatred of the entire Arab world. They would do that even if the Jews weren't bribing both the Democrats and Republicans to do this. You sound like a real American! Not a dual citizen at all! Certainly not with that fake gentile handle.
You sound like a wanna-be Nazi because you are one.
Every congressman has an AIPAC handler; how it that not Zionist control?
To the extent that Massey saying that ("handler") was not a dogwhistle falsehood it strikes me as probably unexceptional. How do you imagine the NAM, say, handles Congressional relations? Never sends the same lobbyist to talk to the same Congresscreature twice in a row? Or maybe the NAM sends the lobbyist who has talked successfully to that Congressvermin enough times for the NAM to think that he's one who can get results?
You sound like you're getting off on this fantasy and how it makes you feel jealously inferior.
Sports only recently replaced war as the main interest of the human male.
It seems more likely that Republicans would turn against Israel. Jews will never vote Republican but Muslim voters in swing states might.
More Jews will in fact vote and donate to Republicans if the Dem's coalition of the fringes continues to get more hostile.
They do vote for conservative parties in France and UK but in the US the Republican party is the Christian party and the Democrat party is not. Jews will never vote for the Christian party in significant numbers.
Christianity is dead. As is Judiaism in the US. So, no, that is wrong.
No conservative party even exists in the UK, btw.
As long as the Democrats are the anti-Christian party Jews will vote for them. Voting for the Democrats is what it means to be an American Jew. Jews have more in common with the anti-Israel protestors than they do with the Christains who vote Republican. In fact half the anti-Israel campus protestors are probably Jews.
No it doesn't. And I doubt it very much.
Will the Democrats ever turn against Israel? They already have. THe Biden/Harris push for a ceasefire in Gaza without further Israeli success is just that.
"further Israeli success." LOL. The Israelis are only good at murdering women and children and anally raping prisoners. And even to do this, they require America to pay for it and support them in every way. They can't fight against armed men on anything remotely approaching a level field. How much more genocide of captive civilians until you rate Israel a "success"?
Your delusional rant is a delusional rant.
Can I find any Jewish Donors who are PRO Israel but not pro-Establishment?
https://youtu.be/OR67EQNvc1k?feature=shared
Steve, in my opinion, the answer to that question ultimately depends on demographics. If we continue to import millions of parasitic and useless turd worlders who historically vote Democrat(ic) and who view Jews as just another group of White people to envy and hate, then it's just a matter of time.
A study showed that in issues where the "grassroots" have another opinion than the top donors, the top donors almost always have their way.
Also, remember how top Democrat donor Bloomberg got rich. He was first hired in the Wall Street world by other Jews, and then he sold a panel for Wall Street investment firms. His panel was the only one that got information about Federal Reserve changes right before they happened. The Reserve being run by another Jewish individual, Alan Greenspan. Bloomberg got the information "for whatever reason," as one newspaper put it, not being allowed to tell the truth. So everyone in Wall Street had to get Bloomberg's panel, making him extremely wealthy. Then he can donate a lot of that money to the Democrats. And that's how it works.
But wait - the donors lose money at least, right? Information Liberation recently wrote about this, with the Times of Israel as the source: The U.S. government in 2024 will give $454.5 million mainly to Jewish religious institutions, to "secure religion". The decision was made by Jewish Homeland Security secretary Alejandro Mayorkas. In recent years Muslims and Black groups have also applied for some of the money, often with the guidance of Jewish groups. Meanwhile, AIPAC has already spent $100 million in this election cycle, donating to political candidates. Jewish organizations then get tax money by the elected politicians "for their security," much of which will flow to AIPAC.
In New York Orthodox Jewish groups often run elderly care, where it is easy to add numerous daily visits to old people's homes, far more than what is needed, which are then paid for by tax money. Restrictions and investigations of this scheme were ended by Democrat politicians who received donations from the Orthodox groups.
AIPAC says that half of all Jews in the U.S. donates to Jewish organizations. If that is true, they do lose some money through donations. But as the above examples show, they get a lot back from this.
>53 percent of the money went to Democratic candidates or to liberal causes, 44 percent to Republicans or conservatives
This is an enormous difference. Democrats receive 20% more money. Consider how much extra campaigning they can do and how small the margins for victory are in the swing states.
>Of the $675 million given by the top 50 donors, 66 percent of the money came from Jews and 34 percent from gentiles.
> 76% of the money [the Democrats] got from their few dozen biggest donors came from Jews.
Add to that the enormous domination of Jews in the top positions in the top media, and in the few top Hollywood companies. And how Jewish-run Meta, which owns Facebook and Instagram, heavily favors the Democrats; deleting posts, banning users, and only using leftist sources for their news feed - even when the origin of the news is a conservative site. Likewise Google explicitly tells its employees to put anti-immigrant sites at the bottom of the list, or ban them altogether, meaning they won't show up in Google searches. Studies show this shifts several percent of votes to the Left.
Leftists online try to distort the top-donor issue by claiming that "capitalism" is in charge. If a party doesn't want Soviet-style government monopolies, then clearly it is "capitalist." That way they can pretend their side isn't in control and they are still rebels. Rebels who just happen to be promoted by all the media and all the universities and schools, with their front organizations being financed by tax money all over the West.
Do the Jewish top donors favor "capitalism"? They favor mass immigration, which will always lead to higher taxes to bribe immigrant voters, meaning less money for the wealthiest; and also less money for ordinary people, which means less sales for the wealthiest. Mass immigration will always lead to minimum wages being raised. And the more the Left is in charge of a state, the more can they raise the minimum wage to absurd levels. That hurts businesses. Mass immigration means higher costs for society in countless ways, which again leads to higher taxes. And to more public debt, meaning higher interest has to be paid, meaning higher taxes.
The Left's bogeyman is a "racist capitalist" establishment. But if that bogeyman was actually in charge, it would outsource production to low-wage countries while keeping the West White, which would lead to the lowest taxes.
But in fact, it was always the Left that demanded there be no tariffs against Third World production after WWII, because that would be "racist." First they demanded that White expansion be halted and reversed - colonies had to be abandoned and Whites had to flee back to Europe. Then they demanded that there still be trade with the former colonies, where the resources were now owned by Arabs, Blacks and Asians.
While business owners in the West have traditionally always been the most nationalist and pro-tariffs, as the domestic market was always the most important one, and they wanted to be able to take the car to the factory and then go home to the family, not having to go on trips to India and pay bribes to Indian officials, or try to deal with African generals.
The top business owners were always the leftist media's main target, however. Over several generations the media targeted every "racist" and nationalist statement, and kept targeting a business for years afterward. Businesses, whose managers didn't know more about politics than what they would read in the newspaper, had no counter arguments, and had to promote those who were willing to play the media game. That's why we today have even White top donors to the parties who favor mass immigration, alongside the overwhelming Jewish presence. And anyone who would like to favor nationalist candidates would see his money turned away from the parties.
Just one visible example of how the business world has been molded: The CEO of Firefox donated to the side opposing homosexual marriage in California. Firefox was then targeted by the media, and its users were blocked from various sites, until they fired the CEO.
It ultimately always comes back to who controls the top media.
"Reserve being run by another Jewish individual, Alan Greenspan. Bloomberg got the information "for whatever reason," as one newspaper put it"
link please?
THe Elders of Zion ordered Greenspan to give Bloomberg advance information on what the Federal Reserve was going to do because Bloomberh was their agent on Wall Street and I guess they wanted his computer terminal to make $billios but somehow this allegation is not explicityly stated or even justified for unidentified ("whatever") reasons but you should believe it anyway. Because Jews are like that and somehow there weren't any better cionnected Jews available, I guess.
Like I wrote to Jack D on Unz, the Democrats aren't going to go anti-Israel anytime very soon, but supporting Israel is just going to keep on getting more and more expensive for all involved.
Isn't that what eventually did the Crusader kingdoms in? Of all the places to put a homeland, in the middle of a billion Muslims seems rather foolhardy to me.
I think this is correct. Also, Israel is very much a product of the post-WW2 Atlanticist policy view on which Jews capitalized to get their modern nation-state, not that there's anything wrong with that.
Post-WW2 Atlanticism is very much an Anglo-American outlook. Future Amerikwa will just not have that perspective. They will not particularly care about Israel, or Ukraine for that matter. This paradigm shift will accelerate over the next 20 yeasrs, as the late-Boomers die en masse.
Israel is not remotely akin to the Crusader Kingdoms. No European crusade is responsible for its existence.
It is probably true that Israel could be self-sufficient if it had to be. I'd also predict that in that event, Israel would be more conciliatory in its dealings with its neighbors.
My prediction is the opposite. Biden/Harris are pushing Israel to be less firm and given that they have leverage I don't think that they have no effect. And I approve of a firmer stance by Israel.
An anonymous Jew writes that Jews who care about Israel should vote Trump. Lists various policies Trump and Dems have adopted.
https://www.futureofjewish.com/p/as-a-lifelong-jewish-democrat-it
Speaking of election news:
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/01/us-election-software-national-security-threats-00176615
>Voter machines in New Hampshire were handed over to a small firm to program. It turns out they outsourced the coding to foreigners, which was revealed when a firm was hired to do a forensic examination.
>New Hampshire officials say the scan revealed another issue: A programmer had hard-coded the Ukrainian national anthem into the database, in an apparent gesture of solidarity with Kyiv.
>The probe unearthed some unwelcome surprises: software misconfigured to connect to servers in Russia and the use of open-source code — which is freely available online — overseen by a Russian computer engineer convicted of manslaughter, according to a person familiar with the examination and granted anonymity because they were not authorized to speak about it.
>This was “a disaster averted,” said the person familiar with the probe, citing the risk that hackers could have exploited the first two issues to surreptitiously edit the state’s voter rolls, or use them and the presence of the Ukrainian national anthem to stoke election conspiracies.
It's a "conspiracy theory" to know the fact that the coding was outsourced to foreigners who even put their political opinions IN THE CODE.