Great question. You'd think the US press would try to keep it suppressed at this point, but the DM is extremely good at this kind of story -- they've got juicy details, an interview with the woman involved (who's no longer living in China, for what that's worth) and lots of great photos from back in the day. And the 'Careless Whisper' detail is fantastic. The DM is also a bit like Steve -- it gets read very widely, but 'respectable' people try to deny they ever look at it. So let's see how it goes . . . .
It says Jenna Wang "eventually moved to Europe, where she now works as a teacher, translator and cultural mediator."
It says something interesting about her --- am I wrong to think? --- that she emigrated to Europe. Of all possible places, Europe. Not Bangkok or Kuala Lumpur, not Sao Paolo or Cape Town or Timbuktu, not "even "some Chinese-saturated place in the USA.
Maybe Jenna Wang really was basically angling, back then, as a passport-seeker and is just selectively remembering (a woman's specialty).
Back in Jenna's day, the idea of living overseas would likely have seemed impossibly remote and thrilling, so who knows? She may have been a passport hunter, but she may have simply been naive, and was genuinely impressed with Tim and his charms. It's very possible she would have had little or no contact with foreigners of any sort before meeting him.
I made numerous trips to the PRC at around the time Tim was there, and it's hard to communicate now -- given that 2024 China is a world power, with battalions of its citizens traveling everywhere as tourists -- just how isolated and radically different it was back then.
On those trips, in relatively 'cosmopolitan' Guangdong province, I was frequently stared at, whispered about, even had people come up to touch my arm. When I visited friends in a more remote city in far northern China, a mob followed me around when I went out on the street. This was a city of about 300K, but the only foreigners on hand were my friends, i.e. an American couple who were teaching English; a (reputed) squad of Russian prostitutes; and me.
Tim was in Foshan, which is also in Guangdong. But I visited Foshan around that time, and I can tell you it did not resemble Manhattan or the City of London, or even the Bund in Shanghai.
We look at Tim and think -- with lavish justification, I admit -- that it would have been impossible for a gormless dorky shitkicker like him to sweep a 'connected' girl off her feet. But it was a different time, and a very different place.
They have engaged in several comically bad attempts to make Walz relatable to blue collar men. This may be the most relatable thing to them he has ever done, minus the part where she is from China. They might promote it.
You know, I always wondered why nobody ever considers men might be bi. We see women doing it all the time, and in the Greco-Roman era there were lots of guys who played both sides of the street.
I was transfixed by this story when I saw it this morning, in that it parallels (at least for a while) my own experience.
I left a windswept plains state to go live in Hong Kong at around the same time Tim did his year of teaching in China, and I also got involved with a young local woman. There our stories diverge, though, as I married my HK girlfriend (she's still the current, and ever-delightful, Mrs Calvinist), and I stayed put here.
One thing that will not be apparent to many western readers in 2024, given perceptions of the PRC as being a secular moral wasteland, is how deeply conservative Chinese culture was -- and in some respects still is -- when it comes to what Tim did, i.e. sleep with his paramour but then ditch her when she counted on him to marry her. She would have taken a significant risk in carrying on with him as she did, and certainly would not have regarded their relationship as just some casual footsies-and-funsies. If her recollections of their relationship are accurate, he betrayed her deeply, and left her in the lurch, potentially facing serious consequences.
Fortunately for her, however, the late 80s-early 90s are when the PRC started opening up at warp speed. It's not clear from the article what happened to her directly after Tim dumped her, but she ended up living and working in Europe, so it's likely it was nothing too bad. But at the time, of course, she -- and Tim -- would not have known this.
It seems Tim's a multifaceted, holistic, 360-degree liar and loser.
A few decades ago I had a year-long relationship with a Chinese-raised Chinese woman and unsuccessfully courted another. I hope my ex-girlfriend wouldn’t characterise me as being like Walz, but it petered out when neither of us really wanted to settle down and marry.
I learned two things:
1) There is a material share of Chinese women who find white men very attractive. An old friend (now married and settled in Japan to a native) tells me the same
2) Chinese are not naturally promiscuous. Sex before marriage is not taboo but it is seen as part of the process leading to marriage
PS: like Walz, I settled down and married a member of my own race.
PPS: something like 10% of the adult Chinese population is a CCP member. For many it’s just a rite of passage if they want to be successful in life. The father was presumably nothing important.
So Chinese Timmy somehow managed, out of all the girls in China on his many, MANY trips there, to get hooked up with a Chinese official's daughter? And then he grows up to become a major political figure in the U.S., and perhaps vice president? Where only one bullet from a "lone nut" would make him president?
Man, what are the odds!
He's no Machurian Candidate, because that guy was brainwashed. Waltz is, instead, a long-festering spy for China, bought and paid for, like Eric Swalwell and much of our government officials.
Tim was a hick from nowhere -- zero background, zero influence, and, at this point at least, seemingly zero potential to amount to much.
I also wouldn't read too much into 'Chinese official' here; it's likely Tim's girlfriend's father was a local-level party cadre, i.e. not someone connected with national-level power.
Having been on the scene at the same time, I find the story in the DM plausible. It's likely the girl's father would have been furious with her for hooking up with a dork foreign teacher nobody and embarrassing him by calling his family's commitment to the party into question by wanting to go off to live in the USA.
The 'foreign English teacher' in the PRC is a type, and one that's been around for a long time. I'm not sure how seriously they have ever been taken. I had friends from much more connected and high-prestige backgrounds who were teaching in the PRC at that time, and they weren't recruited as potential spies.
Tim's ongoing attachments to China after his teaching gig are more interesting. But I wonder if the ideological fervor was supplied more by Tim and Gwen than by their hosts.
From the Chicoms spying network, its not a hard play:
Chi-Coms target smart/talented American boys in China who either seem to "love" China or are there for the girls.
Hook them up with Chinese girls, nice digs, pleasant time, some cash, and slowly win their loyalty and collect blackmail.
The more they come back, the more they know they got them.
Push them into politics and sensitive industries. Help their careers along in the U.S., and at each level re-evalutate loyalty. The higher they climb, the more you help, till they're owned by you.
They already have you being fascinating with their country and willing to travel to a Communist nation to live in, and to learn Chinese and work there requires some brains. So the pool is already self-selected.
Thanks for the quick reply, R G. Your scenario makes sense from one perspective, but it does raise a few questions:
If Tim is a kind of Manchurian candidate, then why is this story coming out now, when he's on the cusp of the vice presidency?
Why would the party official in question essentially pimp out his own daughter in this way? Chinese families really, really care -- and did 35 years ago -- about their progeny getting on in the world. Wouldn't somebody else's daughter have been used?
And, if said daughter was indeed a kind of honeypot-operative, why would she grant the DM an interview at this point? I guess she could have renounced her old party ways, and is now trying to hurt Tim's career instead of promoting it, but if the PRC really runs intelligence and influence networks that are as sophisticated as you're suggesting, wouldn't she be putting her own well-being in jeopardy?
The PRC certainly engages in intelligence work, as all powerful countries do. But in the past decades it seems they prefer to place their own citizens as students/faculty/researchers in foreign countries, rather than trying to run shadowy networks of foreigners like Smiley and Karla.
Anything's possible, I guess, but I'm not quite seeing this scenario working out with a jazz-hands-flapping loudmouth rube like Tim. Now, how that combo propelled him into congress, the Minnesota governor's chair, and potentially the White House (who knows?) is another question . . . .
How many get their daughter involved with a man who was in the National Guard and goes on to become a U.S. Congressman, governor, and Vice Presidential candidate?
I mean, like with Obama, Waltz's life has too many lucky breaks and weird coincidences to see his rise as pure talent.
Just like Bubba Copeland, the Smiths Station, Alabama, mayor who unalived himself after cross-dressing pictures of him surfaced in November. If not for how it ended, the whole situation would have been reminiscent of an SNL sketch, as the guy was not only a funny-looking woman but also looked eerily like his wife, who claims she didn't know about her husband's proclivities.
A somewhat prominent guy local to me, whom I always thought was a weakly closeted homo, attracts a remarkable number of eligible women to him, not as fag-hags but as women who want to date him. They seem to be completely oblivious to his gay vibe. My best guess is that he is clean, tidy, employed, better groomed and dressed than the median single man, so that checks the boxes for these broody—or just past broody but still coasting on inertia—dames and they don't scrutinize any closer, even after moving in. But somehow the relationships are awkward and don't quite work out.
That makes zero sense to me. The opportunity to score female tail seems to exceed the quantities you can score male tail basically nowhere, so far as I can see (from the outside).
Because the right have to find *something* to get him on, and they're grasping at straws. The Democrats really did do their homework and find someone without any Epstein-type skeletons in their closet this time. The fact that they're digging up consensual affairs from 30 years ago shows how desperate they are.
I think of Walz as the stereotypical junior high/high school assistant coach who everyone thinks of as a pederast. He's there to slap you on your ass for a good play, and take a sneak-peak at the girls' showers. So, it's not surprising that he had a 'Careful Whisper' with a Chinese girl while abroad. He likely thought that she looked pre-pubescent and also thought that he could easily get away with the so-called 'dine and dash'.
At Walz's campaign events, whoever is in charge of music should play Wang Chung's "Everybody Have Fun Tonight (Everybody Wang Chung Tonight)." It's no "China Girl," but what else is?
There's "Peking Spring" by Mission of Burma, but that one is...an acquired taste. Here's an early (1979) live version, before anyone outside Boston knew who they were. https://youtu.be/IR1dC0EvpQU?si=1jYlSyH46tT4oKCJ
Finally, there's "Chinese Radiation" from the avant-garage machers themselves, Pere Ubu, and their 1978 debut album The Modern Dance. I heard this while I was still in high school, and it opened up my ears for life: https://youtu.be/1DffSs5t-eA?si=MiW6seKrlbECFpAy
I’m pretty sure the girlfriend was the Wham! fan. My ex-wife loved Michael Jackson and Celine Dion, singers I never would’ve listened to on my own, but I listened with her
That the woman's father was a "Chinese Communist official" is probably what most Republicans will focus on. I used to know a girl whose father was one of the top generals in southern China. I won't write his position but whenever the Chinese military in southern China made headlines, he was definitely involved. That she was his daughter meant nothing, she was not political and had an ordinary job before going to our university. She went to class with us like anyone else.
And regarding that "Communist" part, China is a conservative country with a market economy, and the U.S. is the Marxist country today. They don't have any of the insane policies that are constantly increasing in the West. They take conservative action by limiting the number of hours you can play computer games in a day, to prevent young men from becoming game junkies like in Korea and Japan. They ban effeminate boy bands that imitate the effeminate bands in Korea. The adviser to the dictator traveled around the U.S. for several years in the past, visiting different universities, and now warns against what he saw happening to U.S. youth. As he described it, U.S. cultural life has no "core."
They just keep the party name because they can't admit that its origins were a mistake. Gotta save face. Just like they can't admit that Taiwan means nothing to them other than for posturing and giving young Chinese guys something to be nationalist about online, the better to forget things like China's terrible working conditions.
But there once again, Republicans will of course pretend that there's a "communist" threat, as they love having a safe Cold War enemy far away to posture about, instead of criticizing the actual leftist attacks on Americans: Affirmative Discrimination, tens of thousands of White victims of non-White crime every year, and mass immigration. No, let's instead talk about the Chinese Communist Party and of course abortion. Just.Dumb. Vance: "China is the greatest threat to America today!"
How do you mean, the number of members affects whether the party is nationalist? If it's ten percent that is huge, despite that it's not easy to become a party member.
They really join just in case it'll give them some advantage in life though, which it practically never does since there are so many members. I have known two Chinese who were party members, and it did nothing for them.
Most political parties in the world have much fewer members, even the biggest parties don't have more than maybe 0.7 percent of the population. That the two main American parties have a higher percent is because of the structure of the U.S. election system. Most parties don't have internal elections for president or party leader.
I've been in South Korea for 20 years, raising my son here. South Korea is getting force fed LGBT and migration now by the UN/US/EU and UK. China and Korea kids are so normal compared to the west. It's odd, being pro 1980s USA, but now anti US Government - really progay, proglobal.
That's also increasingly in anime. There's a popular genre called "Isekai," Other World, where the protagonist is moved to a fantasy-style world with game elements. It's because of the Japanese/Korean/Chinese obsession with computer games, boys playing MMOs endlessly, and the isekai anime display the dream of being transferred into the game and meeting wome there. While gaining super powers on the way. No one will mention that all the isekai take part in a EUROPEAN Medieval world, never an Asian-style world, and the women have varying hair colors and eye colors, always with at least one girl having blond hair, so the viewers can imagine having a harem of White women.
Anyway - in isekai it's increasingly common to show how humans oppress the half-humans, the "demi humans." Low-testosterone Japanese guys love to put cat ears on women to make them easier to handle, imagining them to be little pets, when they girls are not talking in squeaky voices and wearing school uniforms, acting childish, cute or afraid. So demi humans are Japan's contribution to fantasy. Constantly in these isekai stories, demi humans are slaves who the hero can free, and then they become his lovers, along with a few human women - naturally at least one blond woman with blue eyes. That way a shut-in Japanese guy watching the shows can feel that he has a way to attract women after all; he'd free them from oppression and be a Nice Guy. So, it's a Japanese guy freeing demi humans from White oppression.
And the theme of "if there is a class conflict, then rich is oppressor, poor is good," goes without saying. You'll never see a theme of schemers tricking the peasants into following them against good rulers.
For anime to end up in Netflix it should preferably include homosexuality. Or "prejudice" or discrimination. And Netflix is of course huge for the anime businesses. So for example:
Knights of Sidonia - the first anime created for Netflix. A sci-fi anime where mankind has "a third gender" which are transvestites. They "change gender depending on who they fall in love with." The main character befriends a "third gender" creature who then becomes a woman. The dream of transvestites, transformation.
High-Rise Invasion - The female protagonist meets another girl stuck in the same dimension, and for no reason at all they start holding hands and showing attraction to each other.
Ajin - Immortals are captured by humans who subject them to horrific experiments. While some ajin turn into antagonists, it's the same as in X-Men, that mutants turn bad because of "bigotry" from humans.
Komi Can't Communicate - Tadano and Komi are the main characters, but the third character, Najimi, is a transvestite. Tadano knew her first as a boy, but now she looks like a girl, and geewiz, no one in the high school class knows if it's a boy or a girl, and apparently there's no way to find out. And the transvestite is extremely popular, having hundreds of friends. (It's obviously a girl; looks like a girl and voiced by a woman. And since they haven't perfected propaganda like in the U.S., the show has a tourist trip where boys and girls sleep separately, making the show indirectly reveal that the girl is a girl, sleeping in the girls' room.)
In KCC you can also see that they changed the translation. In the manga and amateur translations, and it is confirmed for the original Japanese, a little boy says "when I grow up I want to be like her." (Talking about the girl Komi.) Another boy quickly says, "Of course you can't!" This is changed on Netflix, clear censorship. In another scene the main character Tadano sees his male classmates gushing over clothes in a magazine, and he thinks to himself, "What a bunch of girls!" This is also changed.
Ponyo - Not a propaganda movie, and it has Ponyo liking meat, to the horror of her father Fujimoto who holds her captive. You'll never see a good character be pro-meat and turn against a vegetarian in a Hollywood show. But Netflix has changed the translation in one place. When Sosuke and his mother first encounter Fujimoto, the mother drives away telling her son that Fujimoto is a weirdo. Then she tells Sosuke, "But don't you go calling people that, Sosuke." In Netflix translation instead, this is changed to "But we don't judge people by their looks." And Sosuke confirms that. Then again later during the ride, the subtitles repeat again that "we don't judge people by their looks!" It has no resemblance to what they actually say in Japanese.
I had a Chinese gf for a while in Beining. Her dad was a Beijing Opera singer, which is pretty cool, but it isn't all that high-status (performance artists traditionally shared the same quarter as prostitutes in Beijing). Actually, he took up opera because, as the child of a Japanese officer and supposed war criminal, he wouldn't have had access to respectable jobs.
Anyway this woman has no reason to complain about me, because she ended up marrying a very wealthy Swiss industrialist she met through me. Wise choice on her part.
My suspicion concerning Tim Walz is that he was in on the student visa-for-money racket that was big in China when he was active there. As a teacher in the US he would have been perfectly positioned to cash in, and there is absolutely no way he wasn't frequently asked to participate in these schemes.
That he had a girlfriend in China is pretty inconsequential. But I bet mine was a lot hotter than his. I mean, look at the guy...
You can find photos of her in the Daily Mail article. She's pleasant looking, but not especially striking. There's a photo of her in a swimsuit indicating she's a bit more hour-glassy than is typical for Chinese girls, so she had that going for her.
The very best part of the article is a quotation from this woman, named Jenna, as she reminisces on Tim's charms:
"Tim was very handsome. I loved his eyes and his big mouth."
Robert DeNiro by contrast managed to snag one of the Plainest-Janes out of the roughly 500M Han Chinese females on the planet. No idea what's going on in De Niro's psyche that made him say, "Eh, white women, attractive women, really don't do it for me."
Will the Kamala press cover this story? Only one week to keep it buried.
Great question. You'd think the US press would try to keep it suppressed at this point, but the DM is extremely good at this kind of story -- they've got juicy details, an interview with the woman involved (who's no longer living in China, for what that's worth) and lots of great photos from back in the day. And the 'Careless Whisper' detail is fantastic. The DM is also a bit like Steve -- it gets read very widely, but 'respectable' people try to deny they ever look at it. So let's see how it goes . . . .
It says Jenna Wang "eventually moved to Europe, where she now works as a teacher, translator and cultural mediator."
It says something interesting about her --- am I wrong to think? --- that she emigrated to Europe. Of all possible places, Europe. Not Bangkok or Kuala Lumpur, not Sao Paolo or Cape Town or Timbuktu, not "even "some Chinese-saturated place in the USA.
Maybe Jenna Wang really was basically angling, back then, as a passport-seeker and is just selectively remembering (a woman's specialty).
Back in Jenna's day, the idea of living overseas would likely have seemed impossibly remote and thrilling, so who knows? She may have been a passport hunter, but she may have simply been naive, and was genuinely impressed with Tim and his charms. It's very possible she would have had little or no contact with foreigners of any sort before meeting him.
I made numerous trips to the PRC at around the time Tim was there, and it's hard to communicate now -- given that 2024 China is a world power, with battalions of its citizens traveling everywhere as tourists -- just how isolated and radically different it was back then.
On those trips, in relatively 'cosmopolitan' Guangdong province, I was frequently stared at, whispered about, even had people come up to touch my arm. When I visited friends in a more remote city in far northern China, a mob followed me around when I went out on the street. This was a city of about 300K, but the only foreigners on hand were my friends, i.e. an American couple who were teaching English; a (reputed) squad of Russian prostitutes; and me.
Tim was in Foshan, which is also in Guangdong. But I visited Foshan around that time, and I can tell you it did not resemble Manhattan or the City of London, or even the Bund in Shanghai.
We look at Tim and think -- with lavish justification, I admit -- that it would have been impossible for a gormless dorky shitkicker like him to sweep a 'connected' girl off her feet. But it was a different time, and a very different place.
They have engaged in several comically bad attempts to make Walz relatable to blue collar men. This may be the most relatable thing to them he has ever done, minus the part where she is from China. They might promote it.
Of course not. There’s yet another hagiography at the Times, this time about Kamala’s wonderful mother and her troubles as a “woman of colour.”
That's the thing about being a straight guy on the left. You're fine...until you're not useful anymore. Look at Neil Gaiman.
Spreading slowly (Newsweek, Economic Times) and overseas, but mainstream are quiet
He's not gay?
A gay man would definitely leave the cute China Girl behind, and marry his current wife. Oh baby, just you shut your mouth.
I never could get that visions of swastikas thing, but maybe walz understands it better than me.
Or maybe his wife.
Of course Walz isn't homosexual. He just lets his wife lead.
You know, I always wondered why nobody ever considers men might be bi. We see women doing it all the time, and in the Greco-Roman era there were lots of guys who played both sides of the street.
I was transfixed by this story when I saw it this morning, in that it parallels (at least for a while) my own experience.
I left a windswept plains state to go live in Hong Kong at around the same time Tim did his year of teaching in China, and I also got involved with a young local woman. There our stories diverge, though, as I married my HK girlfriend (she's still the current, and ever-delightful, Mrs Calvinist), and I stayed put here.
One thing that will not be apparent to many western readers in 2024, given perceptions of the PRC as being a secular moral wasteland, is how deeply conservative Chinese culture was -- and in some respects still is -- when it comes to what Tim did, i.e. sleep with his paramour but then ditch her when she counted on him to marry her. She would have taken a significant risk in carrying on with him as she did, and certainly would not have regarded their relationship as just some casual footsies-and-funsies. If her recollections of their relationship are accurate, he betrayed her deeply, and left her in the lurch, potentially facing serious consequences.
Fortunately for her, however, the late 80s-early 90s are when the PRC started opening up at warp speed. It's not clear from the article what happened to her directly after Tim dumped her, but she ended up living and working in Europe, so it's likely it was nothing too bad. But at the time, of course, she -- and Tim -- would not have known this.
It seems Tim's a multifaceted, holistic, 360-degree liar and loser.
A few decades ago I had a year-long relationship with a Chinese-raised Chinese woman and unsuccessfully courted another. I hope my ex-girlfriend wouldn’t characterise me as being like Walz, but it petered out when neither of us really wanted to settle down and marry.
I learned two things:
1) There is a material share of Chinese women who find white men very attractive. An old friend (now married and settled in Japan to a native) tells me the same
2) Chinese are not naturally promiscuous. Sex before marriage is not taboo but it is seen as part of the process leading to marriage
PS: like Walz, I settled down and married a member of my own race.
PPS: something like 10% of the adult Chinese population is a CCP member. For many it’s just a rite of passage if they want to be successful in life. The father was presumably nothing important.
What does the eventual long-term expatriation (emigration?) to "Europe" say about this woman Jenna Wang? See other comment:
https://www.stevesailer.net/p/tim-walzs-careless-whisper/comment/74903356
So Chinese Timmy somehow managed, out of all the girls in China on his many, MANY trips there, to get hooked up with a Chinese official's daughter? And then he grows up to become a major political figure in the U.S., and perhaps vice president? Where only one bullet from a "lone nut" would make him president?
Man, what are the odds!
He's no Machurian Candidate, because that guy was brainwashed. Waltz is, instead, a long-festering spy for China, bought and paid for, like Eric Swalwell and much of our government officials.
Hmmmmm . . . not sure about this one, R G.
Tim was a hick from nowhere -- zero background, zero influence, and, at this point at least, seemingly zero potential to amount to much.
I also wouldn't read too much into 'Chinese official' here; it's likely Tim's girlfriend's father was a local-level party cadre, i.e. not someone connected with national-level power.
Having been on the scene at the same time, I find the story in the DM plausible. It's likely the girl's father would have been furious with her for hooking up with a dork foreign teacher nobody and embarrassing him by calling his family's commitment to the party into question by wanting to go off to live in the USA.
The 'foreign English teacher' in the PRC is a type, and one that's been around for a long time. I'm not sure how seriously they have ever been taken. I had friends from much more connected and high-prestige backgrounds who were teaching in the PRC at that time, and they weren't recruited as potential spies.
Tim's ongoing attachments to China after his teaching gig are more interesting. But I wonder if the ideological fervor was supplied more by Tim and Gwen than by their hosts.
From the Chicoms spying network, its not a hard play:
Chi-Coms target smart/talented American boys in China who either seem to "love" China or are there for the girls.
Hook them up with Chinese girls, nice digs, pleasant time, some cash, and slowly win their loyalty and collect blackmail.
The more they come back, the more they know they got them.
Push them into politics and sensitive industries. Help their careers along in the U.S., and at each level re-evalutate loyalty. The higher they climb, the more you help, till they're owned by you.
They already have you being fascinating with their country and willing to travel to a Communist nation to live in, and to learn Chinese and work there requires some brains. So the pool is already self-selected.
Thanks for the quick reply, R G. Your scenario makes sense from one perspective, but it does raise a few questions:
If Tim is a kind of Manchurian candidate, then why is this story coming out now, when he's on the cusp of the vice presidency?
Why would the party official in question essentially pimp out his own daughter in this way? Chinese families really, really care -- and did 35 years ago -- about their progeny getting on in the world. Wouldn't somebody else's daughter have been used?
And, if said daughter was indeed a kind of honeypot-operative, why would she grant the DM an interview at this point? I guess she could have renounced her old party ways, and is now trying to hurt Tim's career instead of promoting it, but if the PRC really runs intelligence and influence networks that are as sophisticated as you're suggesting, wouldn't she be putting her own well-being in jeopardy?
The PRC certainly engages in intelligence work, as all powerful countries do. But in the past decades it seems they prefer to place their own citizens as students/faculty/researchers in foreign countries, rather than trying to run shadowy networks of foreigners like Smiley and Karla.
Anything's possible, I guess, but I'm not quite seeing this scenario working out with a jazz-hands-flapping loudmouth rube like Tim. Now, how that combo propelled him into congress, the Minnesota governor's chair, and potentially the White House (who knows?) is another question . . . .
https://x.com/DrunkRepub/status/1851011850848387195
I'm surprised they have internet access at the asylum
I'm surprised your parole officer lets you post online, given the kind of forbidden websites you like to frequent.
How many tens of millions of Chinese officials are there in China?
How many get their daughter involved with a man who was in the National Guard and goes on to become a U.S. Congressman, governor, and Vice Presidential candidate?
I mean, like with Obama, Waltz's life has too many lucky breaks and weird coincidences to see his rise as pure talent.
Your fevered imagination is of course the only source of the "got his daughter involved" bit.
lol. Ok, so you're a Kamabla campaign/DNC disinformation troll. I get it now. Thanks for the lulz, wittle hack.
How was our gaydar so off?
Well, he does look like the guy who puts a little too much effort into a drag routine at a local talent show fundraiser.
Just like Bubba Copeland, the Smiths Station, Alabama, mayor who unalived himself after cross-dressing pictures of him surfaced in November. If not for how it ended, the whole situation would have been reminiscent of an SNL sketch, as the guy was not only a funny-looking woman but also looked eerily like his wife, who claims she didn't know about her husband's proclivities.
One more-or-less proven allegation doesn't exclude another yet-to-be-proven allegation.
Yeah I’m just kidding, he’s gay as hell. Probably just “experimenting” with a woman
As another commenter almost said,
George Michael fan? Case closed!
A somewhat prominent guy local to me, whom I always thought was a weakly closeted homo, attracts a remarkable number of eligible women to him, not as fag-hags but as women who want to date him. They seem to be completely oblivious to his gay vibe. My best guess is that he is clean, tidy, employed, better groomed and dressed than the median single man, so that checks the boxes for these broody—or just past broody but still coasting on inertia—dames and they don't scrutinize any closer, even after moving in. But somehow the relationships are awkward and don't quite work out.
Having flings with women, being married to a woman, even having kids are not disqualifying for a gay man. Walz is likely a closeted homosexual.
A gay American male does too well with women in China to ever consider being gay there.
A real gay man wouldn't care.
That makes zero sense to me. The opportunity to score female tail seems to exceed the quantities you can score male tail basically nowhere, so far as I can see (from the outside).
Because the right have to find *something* to get him on, and they're grasping at straws. The Democrats really did do their homework and find someone without any Epstein-type skeletons in their closet this time. The fact that they're digging up consensual affairs from 30 years ago shows how desperate they are.
Yeah, "the right" "dug that up" then "pounced".
Why are we "desperate" when Walz is a "weird" dorky joke and Trump looks likely to win?
You're projecting.
god now i have that horrific song stuck in my head
You could replace it with David Bowie’s China Girl. And now, back to the countdown.
Iggy's version was first, and is still superior (Bowie produced it). https://youtu.be/9BBAEUOOFKQ?si=jAsI0nZG4IuKOAtB
I think of Walz as the stereotypical junior high/high school assistant coach who everyone thinks of as a pederast. He's there to slap you on your ass for a good play, and take a sneak-peak at the girls' showers. So, it's not surprising that he had a 'Careful Whisper' with a Chinese girl while abroad. He likely thought that she looked pre-pubescent and also thought that he could easily get away with the so-called 'dine and dash'.
Joe Bob Blanton of "The Last Picture Show."
Doug and Tim Americas answer to toxic masculinity.
At Walz's campaign events, whoever is in charge of music should play Wang Chung's "Everybody Have Fun Tonight (Everybody Wang Chung Tonight)." It's no "China Girl," but what else is?
There's "Peking Spring" by Mission of Burma, but that one is...an acquired taste. Here's an early (1979) live version, before anyone outside Boston knew who they were. https://youtu.be/IR1dC0EvpQU?si=1jYlSyH46tT4oKCJ
Finally, there's "Chinese Radiation" from the avant-garage machers themselves, Pere Ubu, and their 1978 debut album The Modern Dance. I heard this while I was still in high school, and it opened up my ears for life: https://youtu.be/1DffSs5t-eA?si=MiW6seKrlbECFpAy
O.K., one more, and I'm out of here; it's 3:30 a.m. This one I should have remembered right away, but I didn't. How can you play songs about China and Chinese culture without mentioning its special, ahem, "geological" feature? https://youtu.be/tXBChDAfaqI?si=z6fB9tGrbUxQ346h (R.I.P., Johnny and Dee Dee.)https://youtu.be/tXBChDAfaqI?si=flvuAinZdW-0KaU7
Bloodhound Gang came out with a song literally called "Yellow Fever".
Here's the Ramones's version of "Chinese Rock:"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBL0wKAD_xc
"Hey Wang, I think this place is restricted, so don't tell them that your Jewish, ok?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFmPEuNJYpg
She should have listened to Madame Butterfly instead of George Michael.
What did the National Guard think of Tim waltzing around the PRC? I guess only a few need security clearances if they're not deployed, but still.
That last link should have been https://youtu.be/tXBChDAfaqI?si=c_yH8nKVrjaCpVCz
Steve, we know Walz is gay because he's a fan of George Michael. That's enough proof for me. Enjoyed the article.
I’m pretty sure the girlfriend was the Wham! fan. My ex-wife loved Michael Jackson and Celine Dion, singers I never would’ve listened to on my own, but I listened with her
To be honest, I might do the same if I knew it could get me laid.
I'm so sorry Wang. Fuck that guy!!
That the woman's father was a "Chinese Communist official" is probably what most Republicans will focus on. I used to know a girl whose father was one of the top generals in southern China. I won't write his position but whenever the Chinese military in southern China made headlines, he was definitely involved. That she was his daughter meant nothing, she was not political and had an ordinary job before going to our university. She went to class with us like anyone else.
And regarding that "Communist" part, China is a conservative country with a market economy, and the U.S. is the Marxist country today. They don't have any of the insane policies that are constantly increasing in the West. They take conservative action by limiting the number of hours you can play computer games in a day, to prevent young men from becoming game junkies like in Korea and Japan. They ban effeminate boy bands that imitate the effeminate bands in Korea. The adviser to the dictator traveled around the U.S. for several years in the past, visiting different universities, and now warns against what he saw happening to U.S. youth. As he described it, U.S. cultural life has no "core."
They just keep the party name because they can't admit that its origins were a mistake. Gotta save face. Just like they can't admit that Taiwan means nothing to them other than for posturing and giving young Chinese guys something to be nationalist about online, the better to forget things like China's terrible working conditions.
But there once again, Republicans will of course pretend that there's a "communist" threat, as they love having a safe Cold War enemy far away to posture about, instead of criticizing the actual leftist attacks on Americans: Affirmative Discrimination, tens of thousands of White victims of non-White crime every year, and mass immigration. No, let's instead talk about the Chinese Communist Party and of course abortion. Just.Dumb. Vance: "China is the greatest threat to America today!"
The CCP is really just Han Chineseism. This is baffling to the ideologically-deranged apparatchiks who run US foreign policy.
Like 10% of Chinese adults are CCP members.
It’s about as unusual as jogging for an American.
How do you mean, the number of members affects whether the party is nationalist? If it's ten percent that is huge, despite that it's not easy to become a party member.
They really join just in case it'll give them some advantage in life though, which it practically never does since there are so many members. I have known two Chinese who were party members, and it did nothing for them.
Most political parties in the world have much fewer members, even the biggest parties don't have more than maybe 0.7 percent of the population. That the two main American parties have a higher percent is because of the structure of the U.S. election system. Most parties don't have internal elections for president or party leader.
I've been in South Korea for 20 years, raising my son here. South Korea is getting force fed LGBT and migration now by the UN/US/EU and UK. China and Korea kids are so normal compared to the west. It's odd, being pro 1980s USA, but now anti US Government - really progay, proglobal.
That's also increasingly in anime. There's a popular genre called "Isekai," Other World, where the protagonist is moved to a fantasy-style world with game elements. It's because of the Japanese/Korean/Chinese obsession with computer games, boys playing MMOs endlessly, and the isekai anime display the dream of being transferred into the game and meeting wome there. While gaining super powers on the way. No one will mention that all the isekai take part in a EUROPEAN Medieval world, never an Asian-style world, and the women have varying hair colors and eye colors, always with at least one girl having blond hair, so the viewers can imagine having a harem of White women.
Anyway - in isekai it's increasingly common to show how humans oppress the half-humans, the "demi humans." Low-testosterone Japanese guys love to put cat ears on women to make them easier to handle, imagining them to be little pets, when they girls are not talking in squeaky voices and wearing school uniforms, acting childish, cute or afraid. So demi humans are Japan's contribution to fantasy. Constantly in these isekai stories, demi humans are slaves who the hero can free, and then they become his lovers, along with a few human women - naturally at least one blond woman with blue eyes. That way a shut-in Japanese guy watching the shows can feel that he has a way to attract women after all; he'd free them from oppression and be a Nice Guy. So, it's a Japanese guy freeing demi humans from White oppression.
And the theme of "if there is a class conflict, then rich is oppressor, poor is good," goes without saying. You'll never see a theme of schemers tricking the peasants into following them against good rulers.
For anime to end up in Netflix it should preferably include homosexuality. Or "prejudice" or discrimination. And Netflix is of course huge for the anime businesses. So for example:
Knights of Sidonia - the first anime created for Netflix. A sci-fi anime where mankind has "a third gender" which are transvestites. They "change gender depending on who they fall in love with." The main character befriends a "third gender" creature who then becomes a woman. The dream of transvestites, transformation.
High-Rise Invasion - The female protagonist meets another girl stuck in the same dimension, and for no reason at all they start holding hands and showing attraction to each other.
Ajin - Immortals are captured by humans who subject them to horrific experiments. While some ajin turn into antagonists, it's the same as in X-Men, that mutants turn bad because of "bigotry" from humans.
Komi Can't Communicate - Tadano and Komi are the main characters, but the third character, Najimi, is a transvestite. Tadano knew her first as a boy, but now she looks like a girl, and geewiz, no one in the high school class knows if it's a boy or a girl, and apparently there's no way to find out. And the transvestite is extremely popular, having hundreds of friends. (It's obviously a girl; looks like a girl and voiced by a woman. And since they haven't perfected propaganda like in the U.S., the show has a tourist trip where boys and girls sleep separately, making the show indirectly reveal that the girl is a girl, sleeping in the girls' room.)
In KCC you can also see that they changed the translation. In the manga and amateur translations, and it is confirmed for the original Japanese, a little boy says "when I grow up I want to be like her." (Talking about the girl Komi.) Another boy quickly says, "Of course you can't!" This is changed on Netflix, clear censorship. In another scene the main character Tadano sees his male classmates gushing over clothes in a magazine, and he thinks to himself, "What a bunch of girls!" This is also changed.
Ponyo - Not a propaganda movie, and it has Ponyo liking meat, to the horror of her father Fujimoto who holds her captive. You'll never see a good character be pro-meat and turn against a vegetarian in a Hollywood show. But Netflix has changed the translation in one place. When Sosuke and his mother first encounter Fujimoto, the mother drives away telling her son that Fujimoto is a weirdo. Then she tells Sosuke, "But don't you go calling people that, Sosuke." In Netflix translation instead, this is changed to "But we don't judge people by their looks." And Sosuke confirms that. Then again later during the ride, the subtitles repeat again that "we don't judge people by their looks!" It has no resemblance to what they actually say in Japanese.
I had a Chinese gf for a while in Beining. Her dad was a Beijing Opera singer, which is pretty cool, but it isn't all that high-status (performance artists traditionally shared the same quarter as prostitutes in Beijing). Actually, he took up opera because, as the child of a Japanese officer and supposed war criminal, he wouldn't have had access to respectable jobs.
Anyway this woman has no reason to complain about me, because she ended up marrying a very wealthy Swiss industrialist she met through me. Wise choice on her part.
My suspicion concerning Tim Walz is that he was in on the student visa-for-money racket that was big in China when he was active there. As a teacher in the US he would have been perfectly positioned to cash in, and there is absolutely no way he wasn't frequently asked to participate in these schemes.
That he had a girlfriend in China is pretty inconsequential. But I bet mine was a lot hotter than his. I mean, look at the guy...
You can find photos of her in the Daily Mail article. She's pleasant looking, but not especially striking. There's a photo of her in a swimsuit indicating she's a bit more hour-glassy than is typical for Chinese girls, so she had that going for her.
The very best part of the article is a quotation from this woman, named Jenna, as she reminisces on Tim's charms:
"Tim was very handsome. I loved his eyes and his big mouth."
Beauty, eye of the beholder, etc.
She looks nice. Pleasant is right. Too bad about her taste in men.
Robert DeNiro by contrast managed to snag one of the Plainest-Janes out of the roughly 500M Han Chinese females on the planet. No idea what's going on in De Niro's psyche that made him say, "Eh, white women, attractive women, really don't do it for me."
By the way, whatever happened to all the Twitter experts who were convinced Walz was gay?
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